• Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Perhaps I don’t. Though I think each of your examples has systemic reasons that make it unique from this situation.

    It’s a school, so there’s no capitalist profit incentive unlike a nursing home. These are not bystanders, but people with a specific responsibility towards this child, and again, no profit incentive.

    In this case, the child has parents that will be expecting their kid back from school in one piece at the end of the day. There is no way in hell they could realistically get away with knowingly ignoring such a severe injury. Broken femurs, again, can kill you due to internal bleeding. Not the death of some elderly nursing home patient, the death of a child (who has parents) under your care in a place where children do not die very often.

    I don’t see it as very likely.

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      In my experience, which is we could say is anecdotal, in industries like education and care where there is often cost cutting involved is that they tend to lose the teacher or carers that actually care through burnout and realising they’re powerless to actually make a difference.

      This means that the people that do stick it out don’t really care and are merely doing it to get paid and they will do the bare minimum to get paid.

      I worked as a carer for a short period of time and it ruined me. Whilst the happiest people there were the ones that would take the patients out for days out that the carer wanted to do, not what the patient might find interesting. They mocked me for taking kids to bus museums because they loved buses, as they would just take them to the cinema to watch something they themselves wanted to watch.

      People suck.

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      A school is a system, and it can suffer from it’s own systemic issues. I don’t think it’s a good argument to point out systemic issues as a problem yet ignore the fact that schools, private or otherwise, can have the same.

      The severity of the injury is fairly irrelevant in respect ro the staff because your argument assumes they are knowledgable enough to know, or willing enough to care to think about it, or even avoiding thinking about the potential severity to psychologically distance themselves from responsibility for the injury or being “the rat” that points it out and gets everyone in trouble.

      There are a lot of factors that play into this scenario.

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        Agreed, mostly. My issue is with the assumption that the staff knowingly neglected a severe injury, which is what the other commenter was trying to imply for some reason. There’s just no way that ends well for them, in our country where people will chew out teachers for even giving a bad grade. The only way this strikes me as possible is the staff severely underestimating the child’s condition after a “slip and fall”.

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          They did not knowingly ignore a severe injury. They did knowingly ignore a possible injury for a kid that (we don’t know the specifics) had a non-normal mental condition that could communicate by screaming a lot over everything. It’s a really big assumption you rely on stating they knew the severity. Some kids with ASD will freak out over transitions, hyper obsess over strong feeling like anger over an injury, big or small. I’ve been around some kids like this and you just don’t know what you’re going to get. Again, these people, on the little info we have, seem to have a problem with this kid. That really sets the stage for them to ignore the kid over some screaming.

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            The comment I was replying to said the following:

            For anyone wondering, this is what those staff ignored for two hours (WARNING: this may well trigger you, it sure as fuck ruined my day): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx4in4UpdWE

            This video is 43 seconds long. You hear that sound out of a little kid’s leg, followed by the screaming for two hours, and don’t immediately call the ambulance, you’re not a reasonable adult. You’re an inhuman monster. Anyone saying “well maybe they thought he was just acting out” is ignoring the basic facts of the case so they can be contrary on the Internet.

            This implies staff knowingly ignored a severe injury, which is what I find unlikely and wanted to get straight.