YouTube and Reddit are sued for allegedly enabling the racist mass shooting in Buffalo that left 10 dead::The complementary lawsuits claim that the massacre in 2022 was made possible by tech giants, a local gun shop, and the gunman’s parents.

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    Man, if the only thing that’s preventing a country’s populace from murdering each other is restricted access to weapons, then that country is a failed society.

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      Man, if your country has you living in such fear that you feel the need to be armed at all times, then that country is a failed society.

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      Yeah, let’s not regulate guns at all, that’s a swell idea. Really worked out well so far.

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        Let’s make them illegal, like drugs, because that works great.

        The demand for guns in the US is high; if you don’t think this would become a lucrative black market you’re foolish.

        The solution is more involved than just “regulate X”. Something is deeply fucked that isn’t going to be simply solved with a law, and could make things worse despite great intentions, just like prohibition did.

        If the demand isn’t addressed, the problem will still exist. Same as prostitution and drugs.

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          Let’s make them illegal, like drugs, because that works great.

          So what’s the black market for hand grenades and land mines like?

          Practically non-existent because it turns out controlling weapon manufacturing is much easier than controlling drug manufacturing and you can properly scrutinise people’s access to them without a death cult getting outraged.

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            I’d still contend the issue is demand, and that is the root issue. Other solutions are treating the symptom, not the cause.

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              The demand isn’t so much the problem in an in between option, fair regulation and access requirements along with tracking (in the case of guns moreso) would help tremendously.

              Definitely though the underlying cause of the desire/need is a separate discussion. Recreational drugs/guns aren’t a complete negative imo, some people just like to experience a different mindset/state or shoot guns, but those that are mentally ill should be able to get help instead.

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                I don’t disagree necessarily, I just see it this way.

                There’s a drug problem: why are people turning to drugs for escapism? It indicates an underlying issue with society and/or our relationship with drugs.

                Along the same lines, why are we so hostile towards one another? Reducing the number of guns would reduce the number of people shot, but it wouldn’t address the hostility.

                It’s just more complicated than “regulate X” no matter how good or common sense those regulations are.

                My concern is that people only pursue the regulations, don’t address the social issue (much harder), and we end up with what prohibition created - a more robust black market.

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                  Oh yeah, definitely agree, we need accessible (or my preference, free) mental health care amongst other things. In conjunction with better gun/drug laws.

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      There will always be murders. Humans are irrational creatures. Banning firearms makes murder attempts less likely to succeed, and mass murders significantly harder to plan, execute, and achieve actual mortality with.

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      Yes much better to arm that populace and have it be a double failure. Your failed society comparison would be an improvement for the US.

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      That’s kinda a given, but way harder to fix than introducing weapons control.