Employees at multiple federal agencies were ordered to remove pronouns from their email signatures by Friday afternoon, according to internal memos obtained by ABC News.
A persons right to identity is not dependant on how much you care about the interaction, or any other factor. Say you have to escalate the customer support ticket, and you want to say “your colleague X was helping me. He said X was not possible blah blah” this is easier if those pronouns have been visible to you, you don’t have to make an assumption or default to gender neutral pronouns which may not be appropriate depending on the individual.
I’m not imposing of anyones right to identity and frankly to suggest otherwise in any professional context would just be silly.
Like a great many people I send and receive emails all day, corresponding with people from all sorts of organisations.
An infinitesimal portion of people include pronouns in footers, and I suspect the people who do are cisgender with vanilla pronouns.
I get that I’m the only one here being blunt about it, and I’m happy to take the downvotes, but honestly how does anyone navigate the day to day without imposing on people’s “right to identity” if no one is announcing their pronouns in their email footers?
The obvious answer is, very few people care very much about this.
Is your dislike of bananas an important part of your identity, both personally and how you are treated by society at large? Does making it known that you dislike bananas either verbally or through your appearance lead to a realistic possibility of facing abuse and opression, not limited to potential loss of livelihood or life?
If not, perhaps, you can see how the two things aren’t very comparable.
Its awesome that you use any/any pronouns but some people have massive feelings of gender dysphoria from being misgendered. I understand it can be difficult to relate to an experience you’ve never had, but it is a real experience and shouldn’t be minimised.
This is so stupid. I know plenty of cishet people who include their pronouns in their sig because they have a gender neutral name.
Or, in my case, for solidarity and normalizing it.
Yes, this is why they care. It’s part of woke ideology.
is the woke ideology in the room with us now?
That’s why I do it too!
That is why I do it three!
My name tag at work also has my pronouns on it.
Ty for being an ally, king.
<3
Of course it’s daft to mandate what people can and can’t put in their email footers but I don’t get why people put pronouns in footers.
I’m cis male and he/him. Others can call refer to me as it/them or she/her if they wish.
I dislike bananas but I don’t put that in my email footer.
I haven’t seen it in a while anyway. I thought it was a fad from the late 10s
“I don’t care about misgendering” says person of the always assumed gender.
I think that’s kind of reductive honestly.
Like most people I try not to be an ass, and generally try to get through the day without offending anyone.
If I know someone well enough to care about their gender obviously I’d do my best not to misgender them.
OTOH if I’m emailing customer support to ask where my order is I just couldn’t care less what the person’s gender is.
A persons right to identity is not dependant on how much you care about the interaction, or any other factor. Say you have to escalate the customer support ticket, and you want to say “your colleague X was helping me. He said X was not possible blah blah” this is easier if those pronouns have been visible to you, you don’t have to make an assumption or default to gender neutral pronouns which may not be appropriate depending on the individual.
I’m not imposing of anyones right to identity and frankly to suggest otherwise in any professional context would just be silly.
Like a great many people I send and receive emails all day, corresponding with people from all sorts of organisations.
An infinitesimal portion of people include pronouns in footers, and I suspect the people who do are cisgender with vanilla pronouns.
I get that I’m the only one here being blunt about it, and I’m happy to take the downvotes, but honestly how does anyone navigate the day to day without imposing on people’s “right to identity” if no one is announcing their pronouns in their email footers?
The obvious answer is, very few people care very much about this.
Why would you assume that the people who have their pronouns on display are cisgender? That’s baffling
Trans people, like myself, put their pronouns on display so that they can avoid being misgendered in the exact way I’ve described to you.
The only cis people, I’d imagine, who bother to do the same are people who are doing it in allyship with trans folk.
Sure, okay, yeah. And the people who do care, put their pronouns there for you to respect.
Quite frankly, if an infinitesimal set of your emails even include pronouns in the footer to begin with, why is it such a bugbear for you?
Privilege. Privilege is the reason you don’t understand.
Ok, me and everyone else who doesn’t publish their preference for bananas in their footer I guess.
Is your dislike of bananas an important part of your identity, both personally and how you are treated by society at large? Does making it known that you dislike bananas either verbally or through your appearance lead to a realistic possibility of facing abuse and opression, not limited to potential loss of livelihood or life?
If not, perhaps, you can see how the two things aren’t very comparable.
No, but how people refer to me in the third person is also not an important part of my identity.
Someone’s choice of the pronoun to assign to me says more about them and the nature of our relationship than it says about my identity.
Its awesome that you use any/any pronouns but some people have massive feelings of gender dysphoria from being misgendered. I understand it can be difficult to relate to an experience you’ve never had, but it is a real experience and shouldn’t be minimised.