WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Tuesday he wants the U.S. to take ownership of the Gaza Strip and redevelop it after Palestinians are resettled elsewhere.
“We will own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site,” Trump said a start of a joint news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

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    “bOTh sIDez ArE thE saME!!!1!” amirite?

    If anyone reading this is one of those “undecideds” or were banging the third party drum and are tired of hearing “we told you so”, well, bad news, buckaroos: You better buckle up because I’m just getting started.


    commented this elsewhere, but the general idea is that by showing that an important contingent of the left won’t vote for a pro genocide president, the democrats will have no choice but to run a candidate that is electable in the future.

    this means that trump might be president in 2024. That sucks, but most of the damage has already been done (supreme court, senate, etc). Might as well show the dems that they have to run a candidate that supports the rights of civilians all around the globe

    @fart@sh.itjust.works This you? How’s that attitude working out for you now, huh? Hope your moral purity eases your conscious because this is partly on YOU.

    Backup links since the post was deleted:

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      i felt powerless because the dems were supporting genocide, so i tried leveraging what little power i had months out before the election to bluff and say i wouldn’t vote unless they stopped doing genocide in gaza. how is that not CLEARLY the best option?

      why are you blaming anyone but the people fucking killing civilians in gaza? Biden had the ability to end the whole thing with a phone call and didn’t

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      Maybe the Dems shouldn’t have ran on “supporting Israel”.

      They could have distinguished themselves on this issue: they chose not to.

      Trump winning is a DIRECT result of how the Democrats campaigned, and how those here, made apologies for their obviously losing choices.

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        Trump winning is a DIRECT result of how the Democrats campaigned

        How the Democrats campaigned was not the sole cause of Trump winning. Anti-democracy oligarchs, some foreign and some not, some of which control social media, had more to do with it. In my view, whoever the Dems fielded as a candidate, we would have seen a very similar result unless those other causes were very decisively addressed.

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        You are absolutely wrong. The Democrats were the best case scenario for Gaza and Trump just proved that. You can cry all you want about imperfections with the Democrats but the perfect candidate and the perfect scenario simply does not exist and will not exist. Ever. Do you want to change the Democrats? Then fucking vote in every election, ESPECIALLY the local ones, not just the big ticket ones.

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          Yeah and they needed to fucking win you oblivious chode. They CHOSE to run a losing campaign, and apologists like yourself defend their incompetence.

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            They CHOSE to run a losing campaign

            And how did you discern this? Did you consult your Magic 8-Ball?

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            They chose to run a losing campaign? Whatever dude… Enjoy the fascism. If you get a chance to ever vote again, maybe think it through a little better.

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              They chose to run a losing campaign?

              Yes, pretty clear when they would pivot to the opposite of whatever increased their poll numbers.

              And if they weren’t intentionally trying to lose they ran one of the worst campaigns in recent memory

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        Trump winning is a DIRECT result of election interference and years of gerrymandering and voter suppression.

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          Biden won in 2020. He did so by appealing to the left, bringing the left into the DNC coalition, and growing a coalition to win.

          Harris pivoted to the right from the positions of the 2020 Democratic platform. She picked Liz Cheney as the person to bring into stage, and to give a DNC five minute talking spot to a Republican war hawk instead of a Gazan, actual DNC delegate.

          Harris MADE these decisions. And it was fucking stupid. And it was stupid then. It was obvious where the voters were. She CHOSE not to go get them.

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              Bruh they couldn’t even get their own voters out. The ones who voted for them in 2020.

              That’s not voter suppression. It’s a failure of leadership on the part of Democrats for the duration of the Biden presidency, and a refusal on the part of Harris to acknowledge and chart a new course.

              The DNC campaigned to fail in 2024, and it was obvious the entire time.

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                If they make it physically harder to go out and vote, such as closing polling stations, if they use misinformation campaigns those will affect the turn out. Yes Kamala not having a Palestinian go on to talk was deplorable, she should have done more. However trump said he would be a dictator on day one, deport immigrants, and tons of other fascist shit and those same people you said couldn’t even turn up to vote for their own party were ok with what trump was going to do.