cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/25623410
from Associated Press
By AAMER MADHANI, TIA GOLDENBERG and ZEKE MILLER
Updated 8:21 PM EST, February 4, 2025
Yeah but you can’t know for an absolute fact that Harris wouldn’t have done the same thing therefore allowing Trump to get in and actually do it was justified.
/s
People are literally saying she would have done the same thing elsewhere on Lemmy and it’s just baffling. Anything to justify their lack of involvement in this, I guess.
Some of the shit people say on here just baffles me, sometimes. It’s impossible to satirise.
Auth-Left -> Co-opted by the Right
Lib-Right -> Co-opted by the authoritarians
Auth-Right -> Proud fascists
Lib-Left -> There’s like 10 of us
Oof that was a relieving /s
💀
Hey does that sound like this was planned all along to anyone else or what?
Of course that’s such a silly notion. My goodness.
Yeah Trump and co have been speaking about it for months that’s what we were saying.
Maybe when someone tells you who they are, listen.
I don’t know how planned it was, but Kushner was on record saying that Gaza strip is prime beachfront property and should be used for development accordingly.
Bibi can’t control his “settlers” anymore than trump can control his “patriots”.
If the US tries to say they own Gaza, the extremists in Israel won’t hesitate to attack them because they legitimately and truly believe sky daddy said they could have it.
You think either of those groups/leaders know the meaning of the word “share”?
I mean shit, just look at what Bibi’s people say about Christians:
However, Itamar Ben Gvir, Israel’s national security minister, who oversees the police, said in an interview with Army Radio that spitting at Christians was “not a criminal case” and that not everything “justifies an arrest”.
He said the incidents were “deserving of every condemnation” but urged people to “stop slandering Israel”.
The claim was echoed on Tuesday by Israeli settler Elisha Yered, who is suspected of involvement in the killing of a Palestinian teenager in August.
Yered said on X, formerly known as Twitter, that “spitting near priests or churches is an ancient Jewish custom”.
“Perhaps under the influence of Western culture we have somewhat forgotten what Christianity is, but I think the millions of Jews who suffered in exile from the Crusades, the torture of the [Spanish] Inquisition, blood libels and mass pogroms – will never forget,” he added.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-spitting-christians-jerusalem-not-criminal-ben-gvir
That was 10/4/23, days before the attack.
They’re not going to be ok with anyone besides Jewish Israelis living in Gaza
the extremists in Israel won’t hesitate to attack them
Who had an US vs Israel war on their bingo cards? We’re reaching levels of idiotic pointless human suffering that shouldn’t be possible.
Panama Canal, Canada, Greenland, Gaza…. He’s just trying to get his hands on whatever he can. That’s what he wants for his legacy, he saw Putin trying to get the band back together and wanted to emulate it.
The best part is the only justification for keeping china and Russia at bay was because the US is morally superior and doesn’t invade weaker countries just because it can. Well the US is 100% full of shit. All bets are off
US taking over Gaza. What could possibly go wrong here.
Killing American citizens. As a recorded fact. This is something we will kill Americacan citizens over. Israel crossed a recorded line. Israeli citizens will die due to this. They are not Americans and we will kill them in retribution. Neyathue needs to understand we will have a life for a life.
No, all the stupid rich Christians will go buy the land and the Israelis will shoot them too because they truly believe God said they could have it. Then the US Military hops in for an eternal war and foothold in the middle east.
deleted by creator
Gotta secure the ground for more Starbucks.
Trump lies like regular people breathe. Anyone who believed him was a fool. But I’m not looking forward to all of the sanctimonious dipshits making mean comments about Palestinians/Arabs who voted for him in the hope that he would be better than Biden.
People were desperate and the Democrats made damned sure they felt voiceless, so they threw their lot in with the devil in the hopes that some babies in Gaza would live to see their next birthday. Again, they were fools. But seeing people gleefully throw the impending (and continued) genocide in their faces makes me feel sick
Nobody is gleeful, as far as I’ve seen. Yeah everyone who told people that this is what was going to happen gets to say “I told you so” but they aren’t happy, they’re just pissed off in multiple directions now.
I’m not gleeful at all. Just more sad. Sad for the Palestinians, sad for us in America, sad for the rest of the world too. What a huge mess.
Sadly I’ve seen several comments in other threads that I would regard as gleeful/mean-spirited, and over in the bad place they’re posting about voters from Dearborn on r/leopardsAteMyFace.
I think if people want to have words with the independents/third party contrarian crowd who couldn’t hold their nose and do the right thing that’s one thing. But going after people from the Palestinian/Levantine/Arab community who acted out of hopelessness is both counter-productive and profoundly lacking in empathy
Edit: spelling
Yeah everyone who told people that this is what was going to happen gets to say “I told you so” but they aren’t happy, they’re just pissed off in multiple directions now.
This is like a drunk driver rubbing it in the face of their passenger that were able to hit 100mph before crashing…
Like, yeah, trump winning was bad.
But no one didn’t see that coming, we were trying to pull Biden/Kamala left on multiple issues because we said they were too far right to beat trump…
And we were right…
And now the people who defended Biden/Kamala being so far right, won’t stop bringing up the fact that the genocide is still ongoing like it would have been if Biden won…
Which again, no one was ever disagreeing with.
But the drunk driver won’t addressed that they shouldn’t have driven drunk, they just keeping saying:
See, I told you we could hit 100mph before the cliff I was right and you were wrong.
It’s like explaining what a tariff is to a trump supporter, they’ll never understand because they’re hyperfocused on “slamming” the other person.
they’re just pissed off in multiple directions now.
If they were, they’d be upset at the candidates and their terrible policy positions that went against what Dem voters wanted.
Instead they spend all their time insisting we can never criticize the Dem candidate for anything because Republicans will always be worse.
Which is literally the reason Republicans ended up with trump…
I’m tired of responding to this stupid sentiment. Have fun on your moral high ground as the world burns around you.
I’m tired of responding to this stupid sentiment
Then dont?
I mean you didn’t anyways, but just don’t reply.
What would be better tho, is if you started working on making sure the next Dem candidate represents the values of the Dem voting base.
That would be a good use of time, and we need all the help we can.
Have fun on your moral high ground
I voted Harris, Biden, Clinton in the last three elections. I’m just as covered in neoli eral shit as anyone else right now.
I’m just trying to get a better candidate next time. So they get more votes.
You know…
Productive shit I stead of trying to split the dem voter base…
IF there’s a ‘next time’
There’s always a next time.
It might not be at the regularly scheduled time, there might be a bunch of extra bullshit, it might take much longer…
But there’s always a next time.
The alternative is giving up for good, and if that’s what you want to do, that’s your choice.
But there’s no reason for you to hang around and convince people there’s no next time and they should also give up for good.
Unless you want to maintain the new trump status quo, which hopefully isn’t your goal here.
The way things are looking right now - and this is only month #1- it’s hard not to feel a little disillusioned
