That chinese team dummy pick up is insane. It makes the dummy look weightless
EDIT: Knock on wood and all but imagine you’re wounded in an emergency situation in china and the next thing you know you’re on two dudes shoulders, 10m away from were you were a second ago while they sonic the hedgehog your ass out of there
I was confused, was the dummy meant to be an incapacitated victim? Because carrying it over the shoulder with no head support could exacerbate any spinal injuries. I get that this is all show, but I’d hope to goodness in a real situation there’d be more care paid to the victim.
I mean it’s the UAE Swat Challenge so I assume whatever scenarios they cook up appeals mostly to SWAT perverts. They’re all gasmasking up before entering, I guess the assumption is nerve gas attack or some bullshit where becoming a paraplegic because the chinese cops yeeted you out of the dangerzone so hard your spinal cord fell out still beats death by asphyxiation.
EDIT: Okay they called it a hostage rescue in the serbia attempt so I guess the assumption is this whole thing operates on counter strike logic except you’re not limited to the follow command and everybody is metagaming it
Wish I could draw so I could make a kelly-comic about how in the good old days SWAT was all about fighting cultists, and nowadays it’s just terror (latest fad) attacks with nerve gas
American police just used to be very worried about satanic cults killing babies. A lot of their training scenarios would revolve around it. Satanic panic type stuff.
There’s this fantastic training movie on surviving edged weapons where information about how quickly a person can close 15 feet of distance, is presented side by side with a scenario of a satanic cult doing ritual human sacrifice. It was everywhere.
There’s still lots of current day training scenarios that revolve around “satanic cult doing something”, but you’d have to go search thru local news for the interviews that mention it, because it’s just taken for granted.
Y’allqaeda was the best piece of nomenclature cooked up on twitter and I’m sad it was just used for single militia instead of being descriptive of the religious right as a whole
I absolutely get where you’re coming from but I never liked the term because to me it smacks of [looking at extremely US-specific problem]: What are we, dirty muslims?
Yeah definitely. I’m sure they explained the scenario/challenge before, and this clip doesn’t rehash it. Also the directive of life > limb probably holds for emergencies as you’ve described. Thanks :)
Yeah definitely. I’m sure they explained the scenario/challenge before
I don’t think they did lmao. The website has 0 information around that and even the VOD somebody else posted here has no info on it in the first 10 minutes, at which the announcer says “I will of course repeat what is necessary to do in the course over the different attempts” or some such. Maybe they reveal the scenario at hour 7.
I don’t think any of it makes sense as a “real world” challenge unless you approach this with SWAT team member cop brain. I’m not gonna claim a police sniper rushing up 4 flights of stairs to hit an impressive shot right after, out of breath, isn’t tense or exciting or whatever, but it is SWAT Team Member Daydream. For an actual police force, at the point where that is necessary to happen you fucked up. Either on the strategical level for the situation or like layers and layers above on a like “this is a government entity with a mission statement”-level.
This challenge and the entire competition tells you nothing about policework other than how the competing teams would fare if they were thrown into action movie situations. It’s impressive displays of skill and athleticism - I mean I don’t think I run half that fast as the chinese dummy cops without sharing a bodyweight dummy with somebody - but at it’s core it’s police porn, not police work.
Absolutely on account of the NYPD is like the 8th biggest military in the world and the best they can send for the SWAT team challenge they voluntarily signed up for to compete in is a team of bozos that gets bodied by half the worlds, going by US premises here, failed state impoverished shitholes teams.
I don’t think this is really a consideration for SWAT teams in kinetic operations but like mission planning and shit is. Just recreate the original Rainbow 6 Videogame IRL and you’d get a lot closer to that
That chinese team dummy pick up is insane. It makes the dummy look weightless
EDIT: Knock on wood and all but imagine you’re wounded in an emergency situation in china and the next thing you know you’re on two dudes shoulders, 10m away from were you were a second ago while they sonic the hedgehog your ass out of there
I was confused, was the dummy meant to be an incapacitated victim? Because carrying it over the shoulder with no head support could exacerbate any spinal injuries. I get that this is all show, but I’d hope to goodness in a real situation there’d be more care paid to the victim.
I mean it’s the UAE Swat Challenge so I assume whatever scenarios they cook up appeals mostly to SWAT perverts. They’re all gasmasking up before entering, I guess the assumption is nerve gas attack or some bullshit where becoming a paraplegic because the chinese cops yeeted you out of the dangerzone so hard your spinal cord fell out still beats death by asphyxiation.
EDIT: Okay they called it a hostage rescue in the serbia attempt so I guess the assumption is this whole thing operates on counter strike logic except you’re not limited to the follow command and everybody is metagaming it
Wish I could draw so I could make a kelly-comic about how in the good old days SWAT was all about fighting cultists, and nowadays it’s just terror (latest fad) attacks with nerve gas
you mean like the videogames or is there actual SWAT history where their founding moment is like the jonestown cult or whatever?
American police just used to be very worried about satanic cults killing babies. A lot of their training scenarios would revolve around it. Satanic panic type stuff.
There’s this fantastic training movie on surviving edged weapons where information about how quickly a person can close 15 feet of distance, is presented side by side with a scenario of a satanic cult doing ritual human sacrifice. It was everywhere.
There’s still lots of current day training scenarios that revolve around “satanic cult doing something”, but you’d have to go search thru local news for the interviews that mention it, because it’s just taken for granted.
love to learn the modern american police finds its roots in like the dastardly shariah police except christianity
Y’allqaeda was the best piece of nomenclature cooked up on twitter and I’m sad it was just used for single militia instead of being descriptive of the religious right as a whole
I absolutely get where you’re coming from but I never liked the term because to me it smacks of [looking at extremely US-specific problem]: What are we, dirty muslims?
Link directly to the Satanic cult part (57:24):
https://youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZpyKSmgdE&t=3444
Hey at least with aum shinrikyo you got both
They just don’t have the satanic vibe, I need my cults to be good proper anti-christianss
Yeah definitely. I’m sure they explained the scenario/challenge before, and this clip doesn’t rehash it. Also the directive of life > limb probably holds for emergencies as you’ve described. Thanks :)
I don’t think they did lmao. The website has 0 information around that and even the VOD somebody else posted here has no info on it in the first 10 minutes, at which the announcer says “I will of course repeat what is necessary to do in the course over the different attempts” or some such. Maybe they reveal the scenario at hour 7.
I don’t think any of it makes sense as a “real world” challenge unless you approach this with SWAT team member cop brain. I’m not gonna claim a police sniper rushing up 4 flights of stairs to hit an impressive shot right after, out of breath, isn’t tense or exciting or whatever, but it is SWAT Team Member Daydream. For an actual police force, at the point where that is necessary to happen you fucked up. Either on the strategical level for the situation or like layers and layers above on a like “this is a government entity with a mission statement”-level.
This challenge and the entire competition tells you nothing about policework other than how the competing teams would fare if they were thrown into action movie situations. It’s impressive displays of skill and athleticism - I mean I don’t think I run half that fast as the chinese dummy cops without sharing a bodyweight dummy with somebody - but at it’s core it’s police porn, not police work.
the burger cop sniper taking so long and fumbling the magazine was very funny though
Absolutely on account of the NYPD is like the 8th biggest military in the world and the best they can send for the SWAT team challenge they voluntarily signed up for to compete in is a team of bozos that gets bodied by half the worlds, going by US premises here, failed state impoverished shitholes teams.
Agreed, there should be investigation and paperwork sections of the test
10 hours of guys in deerstalker caps, smoking pipes and looking at things thru a magnifying glass
I don’t think this is really a consideration for SWAT teams in kinetic operations but like mission planning and shit is. Just recreate the original Rainbow 6 Videogame IRL and you’d get a lot closer to that