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      You misunderstand their incentives. They’re beholden to the billionaires, not to you.

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      That’s not their purpose, they just need to look the part. They are comfortable in the ‘my hands are tied’ position. They can propose bills they know will not make it. When they have a supermajority, like they had not long ago, they are in trouble. They have no choice but to stop proposing bills and find reasons to say they are ‘sabotaged’. They played this game for centuries, still works.

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        They can propose bills they know will not make it.

        they actively work to ensure don’t make it. Manchin, Sinema and others like them are greatly valued by Dems for their role as scapegoats.

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        They in this case being libs in liberal democracies, not democrats specifically.

        One way to resolve the contradiction between the capitalist class, which the state represents, and the masses, whom the state requires to maintain power is for the masses to believe their representatives want what’s best for them, but are powerless to implement it due to foreigners or nature or some other group, or are trying and it will happen some indeterminate time in the future.

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          What’s this today? Been in the fediverse for barely 2 weeks only to be dissapointed by the same manufactured consent from its users (minus the bots).
          All of a sudden I see anti-capitalist posts and based comments.
          The ‘libs’ in Europe would be the shamelessly named socialist parties.
          Invariably being horrible and keeping the status quo with only difference that they now and then throw a bone to the beloved working class and have their larping day on the 1st of may, sing the internationale like they mean it.

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      They are not afraid of being wrong. They don’t actually care about your well being, they are just here to make money for their corporate friends and themselves.

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        That’s the thing, the left adhere themselves to unwritten rules and current precedences. Whereas the right will break all precedent and scoff at unwritten rules and will try to change the written ones in their favour. It happens everywhere, it’s not just a US thing

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          We’re talking about democrats here. They’re a firmly right wing party.

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          Liberals who like the status quo adhere themselves to unwritten rules and current precedences

          You’re getting lost in the sauce. These unwritten rules and precedence (and the written rules) aren’t an end in and of themselves, they’re tools you can use to accomplish specific tasks. When a SCOTUS judge decides to use a specific interpretation of the constitution, it’s not because the constitution is a sacred text and god came down to him and showed him the correct way to interpret it, it’s because he understands the effects of promoting that particular interpretation in the way power will be wielded.

          When democrats decide to let the rules or the parliamentarian or w/e stop them from doing what their constituents want, it’s not because they just hate the idea of someone breaking a rule, it’s because it gives them an excuse not to do something their donors don’t want.