I had a feeling. My mother had flu like systems with lasting brain fog and lost of taste and smell in September 2019, months before the first cases were detected here.
Vaping illness? The only vaping illbess I remember was from the counterfeit weed carts cut with Vitamin E Acetate as a thickener. I ended up with one of those Once, a single hit (it was a blinker) and my chest hurt for days. Tasted like burnt plastic, but not in a “I didn’t prime this right so it tastes like acrolene” way.
I remember there were stories of hospitalized young adults with pneumonia who hadn’t use weed carts, only were using legit tobacco vapes. Could be they just didn’t admit to using illegal carts of course.
Edit: here’s a research article, there was a small CDC study early in 2019 where all the patients had vitamin E in their lungs, but a larger study later in 2019 only had 86% of patients reporting cannabis use, and another in 2020 where they only found vitamin e in 49% of patient samples.
Ya it was that thing. It is pretty weird that it popped up in September 2019, a few months right before the pandemic. Not saying the Vitamin E Acetate vape thing wasn’t a problem, as I don’t vape, but I wonder how often it masked a different lung disease, in Covid.
An elderly friend of mine nearly died of what was diagnosed as the flu in January 2020, even though she’d had a flu shot, and she had unexplained brain fog for a long time after. She had test after test to try to figure out what was causing it. Her doctors couldn’t figure it out.
Yes. She was able to recover, fortunately, and the cognitive impact wasn’t bad enough that you’d notice if you didn’t know her well. But I wondered, after Covid spread around us and brain fog became a well-known aftereffect, if that was actually what she’d had.
I had a feeling. My mother had flu like systems with lasting brain fog and lost of taste and smell in September 2019, months before the first cases were detected here.
How quickly everyone forgot the pneumonia epidemic of 2019 and the mysterious vaping illness that was never spoken of again lmao
intellectual novelty is dead
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Vaping illness? The only vaping illbess I remember was from the counterfeit weed carts cut with Vitamin E Acetate as a thickener. I ended up with one of those Once, a single hit (it was a blinker) and my chest hurt for days. Tasted like burnt plastic, but not in a “I didn’t prime this right so it tastes like acrolene” way.
I remember there were stories of hospitalized young adults with pneumonia who hadn’t use weed carts, only were using legit tobacco vapes. Could be they just didn’t admit to using illegal carts of course.
Edit: here’s a research article, there was a small CDC study early in 2019 where all the patients had vitamin E in their lungs, but a larger study later in 2019 only had 86% of patients reporting cannabis use, and another in 2020 where they only found vitamin e in 49% of patient samples.
Thank you, I have some reading to do 🫡
Ya it was that thing. It is pretty weird that it popped up in September 2019, a few months right before the pandemic. Not saying the Vitamin E Acetate vape thing wasn’t a problem, as I don’t vape, but I wonder how often it masked a different lung disease, in Covid.
yeah the vaping thing is a closed case and not relevant to the question of COVID origins.
My half sister’s mom died with similar symptoms Christmas 2019.
So I completely believe it was here before that.
I’m sorry, how old was she?
I’m not sure. Late 40s maybe.
An elderly friend of mine nearly died of what was diagnosed as the flu in January 2020, even though she’d had a flu shot, and she had unexplained brain fog for a long time after. She had test after test to try to figure out what was causing it. Her doctors couldn’t figure it out.
sad
Yes. She was able to recover, fortunately, and the cognitive impact wasn’t bad enough that you’d notice if you didn’t know her well. But I wondered, after Covid spread around us and brain fog became a well-known aftereffect, if that was actually what she’d had.