Michigan’s attorney general is posing as an anti-Trump champion. So why is she helping Trump’s FBI to target protesters?

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    Why? I’m still really pissed off at the Muslim communities protest vote that got Trump elected.

    I truly don’t care about either side Israel or Palestine. It’s a feud that has been going on forever and nobody is going to solve it or take responsibility for their actions.

    I just know palestine has far more religious nutnobs and ideas that the right here in America are trying to copy while Israel is far more tolerant of the lgbtq communities

    In my view, progressives should be supporting Israel and not the side that has religious fundies bent on control like they are here in the states. And the one that doesn’t oppress women.

    Fuck having to support Palestinians.

    You fucks voted or sat out, and helped the guy that will do the most damage to Palestinians anyhow so why should we listen to morons?

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      It is weird how many white people blame Muslims, Hispanics, and/or Black men for Trump. The only group who majority voted for Trump is white people. Just like every election, whites are always the only group who vote for Republicans. So sorry there aren’t enough minorities to cancel your family’s vote, but blame yourselves, not us.

      And if you’re fine with genocide because a completely separate group of people didn’t vote the way you wanted, just go get your MAGA hat and stop pretending to be a Democrat.

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      It’s a feud that has been going on forever and nobody is going to solve it or take responsibility for their actions.

      You would have said the same thing about the Holocaust while it was happening.

      supporting Israel and not the side that has religious fundies bent on control

      That IS Israel

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      Social tolerance does not make a genocide excuse. Nor does “oh they’ve been fighting for a while”

      One of the sides is backed by the most powerful nation in the world, and the other is mostly civilians, being starved and mass murdered.

      ‘Both sides because some Palestinians are terrorists.’

      I can’t imagine what drove them to such drastic measures. Isreal is a fascist state, commiting an ethnic cleansing on a territory.

      Sure, it’s the fault of brown people for voting against that and not the fault of the politicians for supporting an unpopular policy.

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        Remind me who took hostages and killed a bunch of people at a concert when things were somewhat peaceful? Lol ya that’s all I need to know

        If I’m choosing a side it’s the ones that tolerate the wider range of people and don’t force their religious bullshit onto their own population

        It absolutely is the fault of the people who protest voted. They out number the politician, politicians can be voted out or not elected. Those clowns did nothing but to help maga. Way to go, pat yourself on the back for that. Holy fuck.

        You fucking hypocrites laugh at the Trump voter for voting for the leopards eating their own faces. Not realizing you are doing the exact fucking same thing.

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    We have our own fucking problems to worry about, in case you haven’t fucking noticed.

    What a dipshit take.

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    Dems don’t want to stand up to trump, and they want to stand with Palestine protesters even less.

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    not gonna happen, %70-90 of them consistently vote against anything that is aimed at protesting or slowing down the genocide committed by Israel

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        No, I hate religion, all religion. So if I’m choosing a side I’m choosing the side that doesn’t force their religious bullshit onto their own populace and actually tolerates women and lgbtq rights. We are not the same.

        Imagine supporting a side that would kill you for what you say you valued

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                Religion can’t be eradicated. As an example, the person I replied to, treats the disproven theories of Leninism as unquestionable gospel. Hypocritically criticizing others while defending the genocide by their in group. People will always find something to worship. In trying to forcefully end religious thinking, you would become like those you sought to eliminate.

                As an anarchist I don’t care that people worship privately or in their communities. As long as governments/business/religion is small enough to be answerable to individuals. Unable to dictate through absolute authority, disregarding consent.

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    They don’t want to stand up to Trump

    They are all bluster, but no real action. It’s not just protestors, they’re actively hurting the people they claim they’re representing.

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    Honestly, as much as I’d like to see the genocide stop, if Dems want to stand up to Trump, they should stand with the American people and stand against the oligarchs.

    Decent wages. Healthcare. Housing. Education.

    It’s like being on a plane when the oxygen masks drop. Don’t get out of your seat and try to help others. Put your own damn mask on.

    Once the people who profit from our suffering are overthrown, it will be easier to try to overthrow the people who profit from the suffering of the world. In fact, many of them are the same people, so it’s almost a side-effect.

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      Fascism doesn’t deal in compromise; you have to reject it entirely or you accept it entirely. And guess what? Supporting fascism abroad is still fascism.

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        So why support Palestine? When their leadership would kill you where you stand for your ideology?

        Make it make sense - lol

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          Because genocide is bad no matter who it’s done to. It’s really that simple. I don’t even need to challenge your willfully ignorant understanding of Palestinian society to be against genocide.

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      This genocide is America’s just as much as it is Israel’s. We are the ones providing unconditional support to Israel, billions worth of military weapons, at the taxpayers expense. We are the ones providing international cover by vetoing multiple UN resolutions.

      Not only is a weapons embargo incredibly popular, required by International and US Law, and the morally correct position; a weapons embargo would also free up those billions of dollars to go to healthcare, to housing, to education, to infrastructure, ect.

      We also absolutely have the obligation to significantly fund humanitarian aid to Palestine, since all the death and destruction has happened with US Weapons and profited the US businesses creating those weapons.

      Standing with Palestine is standing with the American people. Because we can change those billions going to their eradication, to instead go to helping the wellbeing of Americans and Palestinians.

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      Do you think the american people want genocide? The fact is the dems choose to represent genocide instead of all the things you mentioned. We dont need to compromise and accept genocide as long as we get the rest. Its genocide for fucks sakes, they need to stop completely.

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      you would think that this is obvious, given the results of the last election against a convicted criminal candidate; but i suppose that’s asking too much.

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        If you didn’t vote because of the pathetic Palestine protest, congratulations you helped get Trump elected.

        Cope and seethe. Facts are facts. And I blame you equally as those who voted for Trump

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          here’s a fun fact for you: someone like trump is an inevitability because of capitalism and imperialism.

          every empire crumbles eventually and, when it does, it turns the violence that it perpetrated upon the world onto its own people. that’s what trump signifies and the democrats & republicans alike are inching us towards this imperial boomerang; kamala has no intention of stopping any of it, like biden didn’t even bother to ask netanyahu to stop genociding the palestinians.

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    1. Dems don’t want to stand up to Trump. They are bought and paid for by the same oligarchs.
    2. Fuck this. What a desperate ploy. Dems standing with Palastine protestors would do fuck-all.
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      Dems standing with Palastine protestors would do fuck-all.

      It would represent people in the US who don’t like genocide. Naturally, dems would rather have fascism under trump.

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      Dems are bad if they join the protest, Dems are bad if they don’t join the protest and say nice words about it, Dems are bad if they don’t say anything about it at all?

      I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, but it would be better if you could couple your statement actions Democrat politicians should take (e.g. bring up bills in support of Palestine, put a Palestinian flag up somewhere, etc.), rather than simply complain they aren’t doing anything.

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    If you keep creating all of these prerequisites and you won’t have anyone to stand with. You’ll lose your country because other people don’t support the exact same things that you stand for, even though you agree on like 80% of it.

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      If “doesn’t actively support genocide” isn’t near the top of your list of prerequisites, then I’ll never stand with you.

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      We will keep our country by standing with as many groups as possible, not abandoning them. Although that seems to be th. Dem model.