We had a lunch lecture where this environmental scientist gave a talk about critical materials and how big of a problem our reliance on these are. He links the whole thing up with politics pretty well, explaining how various political actors are involved and benefit from this or that.

At some point, he even mentions how in the netherlands, policy doesn’t get passed without a buy-in from industry. It means quite a lot, cause this guy is government hired in recommending policies.

Then he contradicts himself in the next paragraph by saying that this is the curse of democracy that people make stupid decisions.

I ask this guy about the contradiction. How you simultaneously harp about profits over needs, the evils of consultancy firms, and the inability of the Dutch government to do anything but pursue corporate interests, while also talking about the problems of “democracy”?

He just tells me “we are a democracy that’s why the Dutch government listens to industry”. Well not exactly that, but at least that’s the message I get when he talks about all the corporate controlled parties winning the elections and how that’s what the people chose.

Dude is this close to realising that the definition of liberal democracy is “legitimised rule by corporations” .

Of course, the lecture ends with a book recommendation for a book about the collapse of human civilisation. And a recommendation to go vote and participate in political parties.

Unlimited death upon elections.

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    I saw a quote on here the other day about how “science advanced one funeral at a time”. The same is true of liberal politics.

    People have a religious fanaticism about “the truth”. Like the scientific method doesn’t exist. We are supposed to “follow science” but if something comes out that contradicts the established science, it’s dismissed out of hand for 50 years and then they quietly try to retcon what has been “the truth” all along. There’s a concept called The half life of knowledge (apologies for a Wikipedia link) that states that over time, some “facts” either become untrue due to more information or sometimes due to cultural shifts. Liberals hate this one simple trick

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      The same is true of liberal politics.

      I’ll go farther and assert the same is true of politics, or anything else, really. Otherwise, I agree.

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        Oh absolutely. I’m pushing 40 and I’m still not in the running for having any power to steer my family in decision making. The “queen bee” is my last grandma and we just do what she wants because she’s fucking impossible. Not to be morbid, but things are gonna get a lot more chill once she passes. I love her and I don’t want her to die on one hand but we have a very strained relationship from decades of her mental abuse.

        Anyway, yeah. Some things get better as generations age out and lose power, but some people pick up the mantle and come kicking and screaming