We had a lunch lecture where this environmental scientist gave a talk about critical materials and how big of a problem our reliance on these are. He links the whole thing up with politics pretty well, explaining how various political actors are involved and benefit from this or that.

At some point, he even mentions how in the netherlands, policy doesn’t get passed without a buy-in from industry. It means quite a lot, cause this guy is government hired in recommending policies.

Then he contradicts himself in the next paragraph by saying that this is the curse of democracy that people make stupid decisions.

I ask this guy about the contradiction. How you simultaneously harp about profits over needs, the evils of consultancy firms, and the inability of the Dutch government to do anything but pursue corporate interests, while also talking about the problems of “democracy”?

He just tells me “we are a democracy that’s why the Dutch government listens to industry”. Well not exactly that, but at least that’s the message I get when he talks about all the corporate controlled parties winning the elections and how that’s what the people chose.

Dude is this close to realising that the definition of liberal democracy is “legitimised rule by corporations” .

Of course, the lecture ends with a book recommendation for a book about the collapse of human civilisation. And a recommendation to go vote and participate in political parties.

Unlimited death upon elections.

  • Simon 𐕣he 🪨 Johnson@lemmy.ml
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    Honestly regardless of your opinion on AES countries vis-a-vis sectarian knife fights, the one thing that AES countries like China and Vietnam are doing is proving out that the consequentialist model of people’s governance can deliver material gains from a position of weakness under direct threat from global capital compared to deontological VOTE Westoid ones.

    Regardless of China’s future in respect to communism, it’s proved out a better governance model. If liberals had any fucking brains, they’d be creaming themselves over a country that can deliver that level of material gains to the poor and middle class and still have the most billionaires in the world. It’s the compromise they’ve been dreaming of, but they’re too stupid to realize that.

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      12 hours ago

      a country that can deliver that level of material gains to the poor and middle class and still have the most billionaires in the world.

      I mean, some of them are creaming there pants. Despite what the Internet makes it seems, not all of them are rabid china haters. Even this lib I’m talking about said “China dominates all the supplies for renewable tech not because they are evil but because their government is smarter than ours”.

      If they understand how the Chinese model and chinese democracy works, that just makes them not liberals anymore.