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      I have asked a few times why PDP deserves all the hate. The best answer I got is “look it up yourself”. I did, and the only things I found were many years old, and in each instance (of which there aren’t that many) he apologized publicly and acknowledged that things got out of hand. To me, his apologies seem sincere and genuine - none of that “I’m sorry I got caught” bullshit that actual scumbags are known for.

      I don’t watch PewDiePie but he’s alright best I can tell. If I’ve missed something, please let me know what that is, and be specific because I genuinely can’t find it.

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          Yeah that wasn’t a great moment, but if you look at the context for that you’ll see that it wasn’t even talking about a black person. It was just an expletive, like saying “motherfucker” or “son of a bitch” etc.

          Keep in mind that outside of USA the N word is not nearly as charged politically and racially as it is within the USA. And PDP is Swedish IIRC, not American.

          Edit: my point is that his usage of that word - which AFAIK only happened once - is not indicative of his character. It’s just indicative that he was really angry at that moment and human brains for some reason use expletives in those cases.

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          Ppl hate for the sake of hating. Pewds fell into a nichè and made millions and naturally people are jealous. Others just hate how loud he is.

          I don’t really care, I saw his transformation over the years and while I didn’t like most his content he is a nice guy. And being along for the ride was sort of like every time something happened you basically were part of (yt) history books xD

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            I don’t really care, I saw his transformation over the years and while I didn’t like most his content he is a nice guy. And being along for the ride was sort of like every time something happened you basically were part of (yt) history books xD

            You sound like an insanely parasocial 15 year old, grow up and stop getting mad at people not liking your favourite youtuber.

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                “He’s a nice guy” “being along for the ride” “I saw his transformation over the years” “People hate for the sake of hating”.

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          That’s not a claim to make without some evidence. There is a thing he did a long time ago on fiverr, and from my POV that does not reflect on his views at all. I can explain my reasoning if you want. Other than that incident, is there any other reason to suspect he’s a Nazi?

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            https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/2/17/14613234/pewdiepie-nazi-satire-alt-right

            He has repeatedly and overtly used Nazi imagery, made a multitude of “jokes” like this:

            Mr. Kjellberg says the material is portrayed in jest. He showed a clip from a Hitler speech in a Sept. 24 video criticizing a YouTube policy, posted swastikas drawn by his fans on Oct. 15 and watched a Hitler video in a brown military uniform to conclude a Dec. 8 video. He also played the Nazi Party anthem before bowing to a swastika in a mock resurrection ritual on Jan. 14, and included a very brief Nazi salute with a Hitler voice-over saying “Sieg Heil” and the text “Nazi Confirmed” near the beginning of a Feb. 5 video.

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            In addition to more overt Nazi symbolism, Kjellberg makes references to the alt-right that are veiled but obvious if you know where to look. In one video from late August, he makes an extended racist joke comparing Harambe the gorilla to Saturday Night Live and Ghostbusters actress and comedian Leslie Jones, echoing the widespread politically tinged, racist harassment that Jones endured last summer, largely from the alt-right.

            And in another video from November, Kjellberg overlays a swastika, along with audio of a speech from Hitler, over unrelated commentary about clickbait YouTube channels. He then goes on to refer to BuzzFeed as “a bunch of cucks” — “cuck” being an alt-right buzzword.

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              Absolutely true for the time the article was written (2017). He changed his ways after the Christchurch attacks which happened in 2019.

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                He has stated his favourite author is a Japanse fascist who wanted to restore the emperor, Yukio Mishima, who tried to do a coup and killed himself when he failed.

                But I’m sure he just likes the guy for his prose, and has no particular fixation or interest in Nazi and fascist imagery and politics.

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                  I agree with the other things people mentioned, and I don’t care that he did it for the money, attention of if he has nazi views (the point that he did it is important). But Mishima is really stretching it. He is really popular outside Japan and has a good prose. Much much nore non nazis like his writing so I wouldn’t call it a dog whistle.

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                    If it acts like a Nazi, Likes Nazi reading, And insists it’s not a Nazi.

                    It’s a Nazi.

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                    Mate, are you really just gonna keep moving the goalposts and doing this subpar jordan peterson fan shit?

                    Imagine being this pathetically tied to a youtuber, holy shit.

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          I’ve skimmed the introduction, and it only seems to cite the same Fiverr incident from 2017. I think it only uses PDP to illustrate some point and attract readers, but I’d have to read the whole thing to be sure.