• AlexLost@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Man, it’s just shit. Life should be of higher value than an object, even if it’s a really cool object or useful. You beating someone for taking something is a bigger problem then things being taken. You can’t commit a crime because someone else also committed a crime first. Get it?

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      7 days ago

      Quite simply, that should be the thief’s decision to make. It’s their risk to undertake, it was their decision to make that choice to rob and steal.

      You can’t commit a crime because someone else also committed a crime first. Get it?

      Legality is not morality.

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        6 days ago

        Just like it is your decision to make too? Do you not see how that applies right back to you as the victim that then perpetrates a crime? It is in no way moral to gun some one down because they stole your chocolate bar, or your daughters virginity for that matter. It is your decision to act in retaliation, howsoever you do, and yes you should be held accountable for how YOU handle a situation, any situation.

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      7 days ago

      What’s really lost in this whole conversation is how its… 2025 and almost nobody walks around with cash anymore?

      You can literally call your bank and credit card companies and have all your cards cancelled and locked within minutes? Any money spent by the thief will be returned to your accounts?

      If it’s your phone stolen instead of your wallet… You didn’t have it set to be locked or auto-lock when theft is detected? You didn’t have find your device set up? You don’t have it set to be able to be remotely wiped? Pretty sure you can also get your phone insured for theft.

      One of the few valuable things Tyler Durden said in Fight Club was “You are not the contents of your wallet. You are not the car you drive. You are not your fucking khakis.” Yet Americans still love to extend the concept of who they are to the things they own.

      People are fucking unhinged, man.

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        6 days ago

        Here here! It’s what they are indoctrinated to do in their defense. You make a good point that decades and decades of effort has gone into making things more secure has reduced the risk/reward for stuff like pickpocketing. I would bet they mostly target things like travel documentation now for identity theft, something more varied and readily available in multi country Europe than North America.

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        7 days ago

        Pretty sure you can also get your phone insured for theft.

        No individual should be expected to use insurance to protect themselves from theft as a solution to it. That’s a crazy take.