• daniyeg [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    i genuinely think these people just don’t understand that chatgpt can’t pick fruits. is this like hard to understand? how are you going to automate?

    also most people on medicaid are already working do you want people to work a second or a thir… yeah actually they probably want that. they probably want to bring back 12 hour shifts too.

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      Tomato harvesting in Xinjiang is almost 100% automated… but that requires large amounts of investment and a plan that extends beyond next quarter, so not gonna happen.

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      A normal part of American politics is always forgetting that someone has to actually do the work…and you have to pay them. They think people having jobs is rich people just doing us a favor.

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      You misunderstand. They want to automate the office jobs and indoor jobs. The crops will be picked by hand.

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        pretty much depends on the industry but here an average office job is usually 8 to 10 hours, 6 days a week. i was talking about the US where they want to repeal the fair labor standards act which sets the standard hours for most job to 8 hours. the employer can force you to work overtime but they have to pay you at least double your usual salary.

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    Of the 34 million “able bodied” on medicaid (anyone aged 19-64 is included AFAIK), 2/3 of them already have jobs. The remainder generally have a qualification to be on medicaid, such as disability or being a caretaker.

    But even if there are a million people that are just playing CoD and stealing our tax money to enjoy basic healthcare, how are we supposed to get them to the fields? Is the government providing a job seeking program, helping with transport, training, and housing for those who want these jobs? Or are they just supposed to teleport to Ventura County and automatically know everything about how to work on a farm? Not to mention that if your body isn’t used to this grueling work, you will be to pained after your first day to possibly show up for your second.

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    I’m reading ch 10 of Capital and it has extensive references to reports written by English factory inspectors. It’s not encouraging to see what kind of deprivation the capitalists know you can survive for long enough to provide them a profit.

    Also, she’s talking about 34 million people. That’s 10 percent of the population she wants to displace out of spite and to distract the working class from the rich people pillaging their communities. Are these 34 million all adults even? Is this a number with any basis in reality? How many people are on medicaid anyways? It’s a bad look for capitalism that this many people rely on this last resort option to access healthcare.

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      Every crop that can be harvested with automation already is and the ones that can’t be are going to have farms screaming because you can’t just throw a bunch of untrained people at them and expect it to be done with any kind of efficiency. It’s just another excuse to deny people benefits and hope they die quietly in a gutter.

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        Not only that, but Americans by and large haven’t done farm work for decades, and the ones who did only did it as a child or are already working in those fields. You aren’t going to magic up some poors from the cities to harvest oranges.

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    34 million able-bodied* on Medicaid

    ok so the guys planning this know that forcing Medicaid workers into these jobs will kill Medicaid benefits, obviously.

    but what about the crops? obviously they won’t be picked… so, they don’t care they don’t get picked? is this a back-door way to go after farm subsidies too?

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      ok so the guys planning this know that forcing Medicaid workers into these jobs will kill Medicaid benefits, obviously.

      It’s a bold strat for sure, taking people who are already disabled and making them even more disabled by doing back breaking work.

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        Well doubtless they hope the work makes some of them strong slaves because they were just faking it to be lazy because that’s a real thing that definitely happens. And those it breaks and leaves disabled beyond the point of doing anything like this they leave to die in the gutter, having extracted some value from them for capital in the process and disposed of them successfully. But while they’re dying they’ll be desperately fighting existing workers for jobs thus allowing worsening conditions, crackdowns on unions, pay kept lower, etc.