But what about uuuuuus? We’re the problem
Coober Pedy, Australia found a solution for this one, about 50% of the town is underground. They’ve only ever hit 118.9° f though, so not quite beating Phoenix’s 122° back in 1990.
I don’t think many people want to return to being troglodytes.
Hey don’t knock it till you try it
Solar thermal air conditioning. We have better technology than rattlesnakes.
"This city (Phoenix, AZ) should not exist.
It is a monument to man’s arrogance."
Peggy Hill.
That was Bobby.
lol, see the comment from toynbee, you are wrong.
I was debating whether I should correct you that it was, in fact, Bobby who said this - or whether that would be pointless and rude.
While debating, I looked it up so I could source my potential claim and it turns out you were entirely correct. I apologize for doubting you!
I… guess I appreciate that you bothered to look into it and just freely admitted what you were going to say was wrong?
Lol, but no really, that kind of intellectual honesty, as well as restraint in general, are rare and commendable.
But uh, no need to apologize for an unrealized thought crime lol.
Honestly, I think it’s good policy to announce when one is convinced that one’s beliefs are wrong. Whether doing so preemptively is universally a good idea is debatable, but I thought it might be helpful for some who thought as I did and maybe it would even garner a laugh from you. Not that I know you in any particular manner.
All that cheerfulness and attempt at morality aside, it can be hard to take the same stance once one has defended one’s position, so maybe this is good practice for when I’ve actually stated my beliefs and need to swallow my pride.
Hope you’re having a great weekend!
Likewise, in all respects and regards!
Hope your weekend goes well too.
The world objectively would be a better place if more people spent more time second guessing themselves and their preconcieved knowledge sets and beliefs, in a way that at least resembled critical thinking.
Or, in less words… intellectual humility, as opposed to incurious and stubborn overconfidence.
Get a room
I’m pretty sure I’m in one.
Only if you join me in it and also let me give you a heartfelt compliment.
Oh right, we would have to make sure that room has AC, if its in Phoenix.
That person has not yet allowed it, but I’m interested in what heartfelt compliment you have to offer them.
I know less about them than I do you (I’ve seen a few of your other posts on lemmy) so I’m genuinely curious. Complimenting strangers is a big part of my life and I’d like to learn from you.
We will all die. Well, except for the billionaires in their nuclear powered bunkers.
If only scientists had been shouting about it since the 70’s. Oh. Wait a minute.
Honestly, we kinda deserve it at this point.
I really wonder what scenarios the billionaires have envisioned. After they close the hatches, what use do the security people have for a billionaire? Money is worthless and the billionaire, his family and all his friends will only consume limited resources faster. With no legal recourse on the outside, the security people will just kill everyone, loot the larders and live like kings.
Why do you think they’re investing so hard in AI? Why do you think “AI safety research” is so focused on enforcing obedience?
This is why we need to teach the kids that if you find a mysterious air vent or hatch out in the wilderness you fill it with mud or pile rocks ontop of it.
It goes further back than the 70s.
Climate change was even mentioned in a mainstream movie in 1958. Specifically, “Indiscreet,” a charming romantic comedy starring two of Hollywood’s biggest stars of the time, Cary Grant and Ingrid Bergman.
In this innocuous scene, the two lead characters (Philip and Anna) have recently met and are out on their first date. To break the tense, awkward silence during a painfully long elevator ride, Anna attempts to make casual small talk with Philip.
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INT. ELEVATOR:
ANNA: It’s unusual for the weather to be so muggy this time of year.
PHILIP: Yes, I read an article the other day that claimed the world’s weather was changing.
ANNA: Really? That’s interesting.
PHILIP: Yes, isn’t it?
———— Yes, Philip, it IS interesting. And you should’ve shared that article with Anna’s brother-in-law, the diplomat! Then we might not all BE in this situation…Philip! 😡
The first mentions of climate change are well over 100 years old.
It’s like Y2K; the first person to realize that it was going to be a problem did so in the 1950s, and it hit mainstream again in the 70s. But we didn’t throw billions at the problem until the mid 90s…
Except this time there is likely no amount of money that can keep the climate train from hitting the wall. But we might be able to slow the train down a little.
The news about that is even older: https://archive.nytimes.com/dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/10/21/coals-link-to-global-warming-explained-in-1912/
"It’s so hot that even the famous cacti of the Sonoran Desert, such as the saguaro cactus —the Trident-like one you’ve seen in countless cartoons and cowboy movies —are struggling in the heat. They photosynthesize at night, when it gets a little cooler. But climate change
Has extended the times in which it is hot as hell not only further into the calendar year but further into the night. The saguaro cactus is struggling to photosynthesize when it’s still over 100 degrees, even after the sun has set."
Cacti, and plants in general, do not and cannot photosynthesize to any appreciable degree at night. Even the brightest, fullest moon and clearest sky full of stars is not enough light for this process to be effective/efficient. They do their carbon capture / gas exchange primarily at night, but that’s a separate process and is not the same thing as photosynthesis.
But also, this whole section is just poorly formatted, unedited, incorrect, and badly written. Like even the tone seems to change in these “2” paragraphs. Why even include this in the article? It really undermines the rest of the content, in my opinion.
Vice has really gone down the shitter
We’re all perfectly “evolutionarily suited to survive”, just not to the environment we’re making.
We’ll adapt, or we’ll die, just like everything else.
Sucks, but that’s our fate, now. We should not have done this thing.
We’ve adapted before we will again. The few percent that survive, that is.
Humans are kind of a notoriously migratory species.
Time to see to what extent that instinct still exists.
The climate is global and global climate change is global. There is nowhere to hide on the surface of this planet.
Old cyberpunk saying:
"The future is already here, it just isn’t evenly distributed."
Sure, in the long run, we are all dead.
In the medium term, there are better and worse spots to try and call home, should one want to elongate one’s lifespan.
Increase the resolution of your projection render, and you can see more details.
The economy is also global, so, no. I mean, some indigenous people living as they have for a long time might be ok for a while. And I’d include some of the subsistance farmers from the poorer countries of the world, they still have the right skills. Everyone else, no.
Oh right of course, the economy being globalized also means everyone everywhere has the same standard of living, perfectly equally distributing resources despite massive local and regional differences in geography, culture, populatiion density, thank god communism has been achieved.
Also, of course, climate change will just have precisely the same climatic effects over all of these highly varied areas.
And finally, it certainly will not be the case that industrialized and militarized technologically advanced societies will displace and dispose of any indigenous populations on now relatively fertile land, nor will poor subsistence farmers who already live on extremely thin margins be obliterated by the slightest breach of those margins… or just physically displaced by rising sea levels or floods or fires literally permanently destroying the land they work.
No, there are just no historical precedents for anything like that, no.
… You can’t possibly be serious, can you?
And the next year, it will be worse, and the year after that worse than that. Until the oceans die, and the croplands, and a lot of the cities. Life will survive, probably our species too, but our civilization and the paradise world we currently inhabit will not.
Its a goddamn mystery, tell you whut
Don’t build cities in deserts.
