…anyways, whatcha having for dinner tonight?

i see now why they married each other. in sickness and in grift…

  • JohnBrownsBawdy [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    33·
    2 days ago

    Oh man I wonder if the idf has offered to send its ball draining squad so she can have even more lil Charlies. Really hope so, him getting a postmortem handjob after having his voice box shot out seems like the perfect final indignity.

  • tamagotchicowboy [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    27·
    2 days ago

    She’s gotta do that pity grift hard, that and there’s a huge issue with death-morality and how its not really addressed nor handled well in our society, less so by fascists, but so it goes when you live by almost pure metaphysical idealism and then reality comes by and claps all cheeks.

    • zipper [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      17·
      2 days ago

      most fashies are religious of some sort, so i bet she’ll soothe herself with the idea of her husband going to the big man above for all his contributions to this world, which is where i find most issue with religion and its hard-on for objective morality. no way in hell am i gonna go on a tangent on the issues of christian heaven in a thread about a widow groping her hubby’s corpse on camera but men like kirk and their followers are the reason i am not religious nor believe in an afterlife.

      • tamagotchicowboy [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        23 hours ago

        It just flows with their view of the world, a dynamic world can’t have a set morality, but the world of the fasc is static and unchanging, just like that of religion. I like to entertain all sorts of things for fun but I just can’t personally with religion.

        • zipper [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          3·
          22 hours ago

          but the world of the fasc is static and unchanging

          that applies more to classical conservatism, i think. fascism as an ideology often strives to get rid of the present social hierarchy and instate a revised version of said hierarchy, to better accommodate the needs of the elite. but i get what you’re trying to say. religion is a mess i don’t want to be part of.

          • tamagotchicowboy [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            2·
            22 hours ago

            For sure, but they tend to melt together The way I see it fascism sees the current time period as an aberration and previous eras esp the feudal era as golden static greatness rather than chaotic flux, they wish to return to the static, which never existed but they don’t gaf, the whole realization I think is what separates the two, I could be wrong here but its something I’m learning about.

            • zipper [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
              2·
              22 hours ago

              trying to define fascism is like trying to pin jelly to a wall, so your definition is as good as mine. the whole point of the ideology is that it adapts to the environment it’s in. but at least usually fascism has some charismatic leaders and cool visuals. i’m not sure if america could’ve picked a more embarrassing and corny administration to run their country to the ground.

              • tamagotchicowboy [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                1·
                22 hours ago

                Fascism appropriates a lot of its imagery and aesthetics from other popular movements throughout time, its very vibey, think it was Dimitrov that wrote that fascism is the highest form of imperialism, that definitely fits too.

                • zipper [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
                  1·
                  22 hours ago

                  it takes imperialism and puts it on turbo. one common characteristic among past fascist states is their ultra-nationalism and the formation of unquestionable national identity. which makes sense, come to think of it; when the world falls apart, people tend to cling to the old and trustworthy rather than the new and untested. fascism just corrupts that old way of life into a system that defines itself by strict classes and the thirst for blood.

    • zipper [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      10·
      2 days ago

      i know that the rhetoric he pushed was vile but videos like there really strike me in the feels for some reason. he was a father. he was a husband. but he was also a fascist. and the policies he helped to instate, if i were to be an american, would harm me immensely. it’s conflicting because yes he’s a piece of shit and a sellout and a grifter, but these videos (as corny as some may be) give him humanity beyond who he was politically. it’s just… fuck man.

        • zipper [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          8·
          2 days ago

          sometimes i’ve gotta remind myself that because all these people look so normal. so ordinary. both kirk and erika look like normal blokes who’d live down the street from you and bake cookies with their kids on saturdays. but then you remember that kirk called on violence towards marginalized groups and peddled so much propaganda that definitely resulted in at least someone being radicalized and all of a sudden their humanity seems… almost obsolete. like it doesn’t matter that they’ve got families and hopes and dreams because they’re so adamant on ruining the lives of others for being part of the current out-group. i just hope his kids do better.

          edit: nvm kirk can go get fucked

      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.netEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        It strikes me as odd to be justifying a person’s humanity based on marital relations they’ve had, and the biological outcomes thereof.

        As a husband and as a father he was, and would have continued to be, a vector of the oppression of women and children.

      • isame [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        12·
        2 days ago

        I find myself having similar feelings towards people I work around. Some of them seem like good people… Because I’m a straight passing white guy, I mask whatever mental bullshit I’ve got going on well, and I work hard. To them, I’m one of them. Ngl I kind of hate that. I haven’t had much privilege in life but that’s obviously a big one.

        Anyway, at the end of the day we are all human.

        It’s just that some of those humans have chosen to spew hateful ideologies and influence others to live that ideology.

        So fuck him and his family.

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        12·
        2 days ago

        Yeah, things like this present an emotional nexus where you’re pulled in many different directions and there is no “right” or “wrong” way to feel, only useful and not useful. All these things are true at once, and it’s up to each person to decide how to proceed with it. I personally choose to embrace the “lol he dead” angle because I view it as the most pragmatic for me, but i won’t disparage anyone who doesn’t, as long as they don’t go down the harmful lib path of wishful whitewashing.

        • zipper [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          8·
          2 days ago

          well said. i don’t wanna be the one to go “LMAO sucks to suck loser” about all this but i won’t pretend to mourn either. he’s dead. okay. he was a bad person and his life’s work led to a fascist party coming to power. he had kids and a wife and was a father of questionable quality. that’s that, i s’pose.

  • Feinsteins_Ghost [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    48·
    2 days ago

    I’m obviously not going to bother watching it. As far as I’m concerned the same can happen to her. Peas in a pod.

    Let it never be said the fascists are one to let a good crisis go to waste.

    • zipper [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      28·
      2 days ago

      my only note from that video is that kirk’s skin is this weird jaundice color that makes him look like a wax statue. everything else is forgettable.

        • zipper [any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          10·
          2 days ago

          i’m sure cheeto himself mailed the mortician a gallon of his favorite 5 dollar spray tan. kirk was a friend, after all.

  • manuallybreathing@lemmy.mlEnglish
    10·
    2 days ago

    Someone in the comments talking about how she should have done the lower button on the blazer up, it would be so annoying in the afterlife

    fascists are incapable of dressing themselves apparently, don’t button a blazer all the way

  • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    18·
    2 days ago

    What about this weird as shit quote of her talking to her daughter about Charlie Kirk’s death

    ‘Daddy loves you so much baby he’s on a work trip with Jesus so he can afford your blueberry budget.’

    What does that even mean? Blueberry budget? Is that just like money for blueberries or something? She’s a fascist but I am sympathetic to the difficulties of talking to toddlers about death, and goddamn I straight up can’t imagine a worse way to broach her daughter’s dad’s death than this.