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CocteauChameleons [none/use name]@hexbear.net to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 day ago

[CW: Misogyny] Charlie Kirk fan kills 2 women in retaliation

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[CW: Misogyny] Charlie Kirk fan kills 2 women in retaliation

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CocteauChameleons [none/use name]@hexbear.net to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 day ago
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Pizza pranks, Charlie Kirk rants: More disturbing livestreams surface in Cranford murder case
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In Cranford, a young man charged with murder allegedly targeted two girls on an e-bike, with disturbing online comments surfacing after the tragic crash.
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  • IceWallowCum [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    son of a retired police officer and the nephew of the Westfield police chief

  • MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    remember when people were saying this is the “Reichstag fire” pffft ,what a clown ass take

    bro it’s been less than a month and it feels like everyone moved on

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      Absurdity. The fear was so high, the reality:

      • MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        I was making fun of bad empanada ,I don’t really get what you mean

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          He needs to actually travel to the US or something to understand how it works. I think internet posturing has tricked him into thinking Americanadians give a fuck about anything other than their own personal homeostasis.

        • SickSemper [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          I’m agreeing, people were talking like this was the moment to jail anyone who posted a hammer and sickle online, when in reality they’re just mad at China and deporting brown people

          • MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            Nick Fuentes said the ACP and Russia were behind it LOL

            • SickSemper [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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              Lmao

              • MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian [he/him]@hexbear.net
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                not joking btw ,he said Haz’s discord was responsible for it and there’s evidence for that and said that Israel didn’t do it ,Haz says Israel did it and I assume most of the other ACP guys have a similar view

                tbh in the beginning I was against that but the way it’s been handled and the way it’s been thrown under the rug and netenyahu denying it makes me think otherwise

                I don’t buy that Robinson did it ,not saying Israel did it but I wouldn’t say involvements past them

                legit the first thing in my mind when it happened was “Epstein cover up?” and America and Israel are one

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    He gets tried as a juvenile. Meanwhile a black kid gets caught with a dime bag of weed and he’s tried as an adult.

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    Tell me more about how it’s the left that are dangerous psychopaths.

    What the fuck did these girls do? Exist and not want to receive unsolicited pornography? Fuck man they were children.

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    ACAB X 100000 amerikkka qin-shi-huangdi-fireball

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    Flags at half staff in chud country?

    No?

    Ahh… well then…

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    Man kills man, women killed in retaliation.

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      It’s what Charlie would have wanted.

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        They were white though

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          yea but if they werent going to be tradwives they were useless to Kirk

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          vaguely hispanic names tho

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    But I’m sure this will be met with constant condemnation of political violence, right? anakin-padme-2

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    Fucker drove 70 miles to kill 2 women for insulting a racist podcaster thats-why-im-confused

    This stupidity is Kirks legacy. Hope you like having him on your coins

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      *70mph

      He lived in the same town and was mad that one of the girls rejected his advances.

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    Male loneliness epidemic btw

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      shoots a bunch of women

      WHY DO WOMEN NOT LIKE ME

      • Hestia [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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        Have you considered that maybe men are the true victims when it comes to violence against women?

        • la_tasalana_intissari_mata [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          bullets cost money 💔

          • Hestia [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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            That’s why having a policy of 1 bullet per fascist is important.

            • la_tasalana_intissari_mata [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              the fascists: under communism two people share a bullet and it takes 10 years to receive yours

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                In North Korea people have to get out and push the bullet along to reach its target. yeonmi-park

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              In this economy you have to be efficient.

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      if this guy had role models besides pigs and had the kind of community that would preempt someone from seeking out andrew tate then those girls would still be alive.

      if you want horrible men to not be horrible the intervention needs to happen in their lives somehow.

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        weird how only men need this. there isnt an equal number of women committing murders. White men maybe having to be equal with some people is devastating to their psyche. the only solution to the white male loneliness “epidemic” would be full blown fascism and slavery.

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          you’re not going to fix white men by changing everybody else.

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        there are plenty of role models already, but men still seek out andrew tate regardless because under patriarchy they’re taught from a young age not to co-exist with women as equals but to expect total submission from women.

        they lash out in confusion when that doesn’t happen due to the relatively recent advent of women actually being able to exist somewhat independently. the so-called male loneliness epidemic and rise of incel culture is just a consequence of the role they learn to feel entitled to in patriarchal society being diminished.

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          i grew up with mr rogers and levar burton. both of their shows were off the air by the bush administration. who are the contemporary “plenty of role models” for people this shitwad’s age?

          i’m male-jacketed because society doesn’t know how to handle nonbinary people yet and the 21st century has been a fucking wasteland. there are no positive mens’ groups because men are predominantly toxic, there is no competition to the tates and the PUA shit before him. the intervention must come from somewhere, and it’s only going to get worse as everyone becomes more isolated and alienated.

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        the intervention needs to happen in their lives somehow.

        Is this the Dorley Hall solution? Just force-feminize all the bad men to solve the problems patriarchy causes? To be clear, there are men that don’t need the basement even under Dorley Hall ethics — why aren’t you including those men in the list of “role models” and “community”?

        Patriarchy harms people of all genders but you can blame both people in a system and the system itself

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          i have no idea what you’re talking about

          Patriarchy harms people of all genders but you can blame both people in a system and the system itself

          yeah men like tate are stochastic terrorists, and this guy committed a heinous crime. if you want to prevent things like this then you need to change the culture and change the social situation so that these guys don’t get like that in the first place. we’re materialists here, address the causes, provide an alternative, etc. but none of that structure exists because cishet men are too toxic to build it themselves and rich men are too entrenched in their control of media.

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    No news outlet has reported on this

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      So he was stalking em for months but his pops is a cop and uncle is a police chief so nothing was done

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        He violated his restraining order every day and cops didnt do anything. Absolute tragedy.

        “Neighbors told ABC 7 Eyewitness News that one of the girls had a restraining order against the driver after he harassed her at school and that he often sat in his vehicle outside her home. Maria Niotis’ uncle was blunt about it on his Facebook page, stating that the driver followed her home from school every day. He said police did nothing about it despite being told many times.”

        https://nj1015.com/cranford-tragic-e-bike-incident/

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          Wow there should actually be negligence charges if not some kind of accessory-to-murder charges for someone in the police department

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          Fucking useless

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            deleted by creator

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      They definitely have reported on this. I read about this story days ago and I definitely don’t follow NJ news.

      But even searching just now I can find articles from lots of major outlets over the last 4 days. CNN, NYT, People, CBS, ABC, etc. Super easy to find, not sure why you would just make this up without even trying to look first.

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        Did you actually read the articles? They didnt do any reporting, they left out the kid’s ideology completely

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    Uhh is there any info if the suspect was a Charlie Kirk fan? I can’t find any but I did find:

    https://nj1015.com/cranford-murder-case-update/

    Which said;

    As the families and friends of Maria Niotis and Isabella Salas were wracked with grief after the fatal Monday afternoon crash in Cranford, the 17-year-old online gamer and follower of the misogynist influencer Andrew Tate went live with his gaming buddy as if it were another normal day.

    I mean, that’s bad too but… yeah, I want to see if the OP’s claim is true too.

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      Its in the article I linked :

      In a clip from the same video, which has been posted on X, he accuses Maria of making fun of conservative speaker Charlie Kirk, who was assassinated by a gunman on Sept. 10.

      “Hey, whenever Maria sees the pizza guy come, better think of Charlie Kirk for making fun of his f**king death. Stupid ass clown. Just remember that,” the teen says. "She made fun of Charlie Kirk’s death on TikTok on a repost. Maybe her mother should monitor her social media activity”

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      I don’t have a source but I heard this dude was basically stalking and harassing these girl for an amount of time.

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        And there were police reports about it before he killed them.

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