This stupid shit has really reached levels of dumb that I can’t handle. Wtf is anything? Why does Forbes care?
FYI “published on forbes” has about the same level of vetting as “published on substack” or “posted on lemmy”. Almost anyone can do it with a little bit of determination.
Damn what a cool and serious economic paper they have going on there.
But they can also estimate the value of human beings
But only so long as that person tells them what the estimate should be along with an envelope full of cash addressed to “Trust me bro”
Pretty sure a lot of Forbes articles aren’t even written by “journalists” actually employed by Forbes i think they contract that shit out pay per article/amount of views
Edit: seems to be confirmed by others in the comments
That this blew up this much is the biggest proof that trumps jobs market is doing abysmally
Hearing about streamers is a recession indicator
Thousands of carnists suddenly care about animal rights when a small group of basement-dwelling nazis tell them a socialist used a shock collar on a dog once and apparently that’s news
to the extent that some normies are getting swept up in the smear campaign because they’ve never heard of LSF or destiny, they’re caring about a pet and the violation of the owner’s social obligation to his pet, rather than animal rights nebulously. No idea why that shit rated a forbes article.
“I’m really passionate about animal welfare!” I proudly declare between bites of my meat lover’s pizza.
The suffering of something that people aren’t very familiar with seems distant. The suffering of something that people are very familiar with seems immediate. You know we’re kind of fucked in the hearts and minds department if we can’t wrap our heads around the very basic contradiction of “I eat meat but don’t like seeing a dog get hurt” that the vast, vast, vast majority of people live with.
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Yes it is.
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It is a contradiction for people to claim to be upset about animal abuse but only care when it’s pets. They’re not upset about animal abuse, they’re upset about pet abuse. That’s just a logical conclusion from a set of facts, you don’t even need to be vegan to see it.
It’s like @Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net said in this thread.
to the extent that some normies are getting swept up in the smear campaign because they’ve never heard of LSF or destiny, they’re caring about a pet and the violation of the owner’s social obligation to his pet, rather than animal rights nebulously. No idea why that shit rated a forbes article.
It is in fact “a contradiction” for these same people to claim that it’s animal abuse that bothers them.
i wouldn’t engage with the person you responded to. they had their feelings hurt by a vegan once and now they refresh search terms adjacent to veganism to find people to play pedantics with. all you’ll get are terse answers which latch onto the smallest, poorest phrasing in your argument. it’s a personal vendetta.
What a strange type of person.
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i think a lot of people probably say “animal abuse” when they meant the more specific case and it takes a place like this for the difference to matter. might even be “animal abuse” statutorily but only ever applied to pets and guide dogs.
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Are we really trying to get off on the technicality that it doesn’t count as abuse if the animal has already been murdered? Eating animal products is participation in systemic animal abuse on a vast and infinitely cruel scale. It’s a contradiction in the same way it would be a contradiction to say “I don’t like pedophiles but I’m fine with child trafficking.”
There is no such thing as ethical consumption of animal products, by the way.
Working with that premise, it’s an obvious contradiction to eat factory farmed meat (which is almost all meat).
Huh you were already banned from here, how’d you get back in?
Anyways, let’s rectify that
I’m pretty sure that most of these people don’t really care about anything beyond stirring the shit
Thousands of carnists suddenly care about animal rights
#notallcarnists
Fuck them dogs 10000 volts on the canid world
MAKE WIRES OUT OF DOGS!!! THIRTY MILLION WATT POWERLINE OUT OF CANINES!!!
Ah yes the article who only directly quotes two people:
Ethan “My wife is a (literal) terrorist” Klein
Steven “Destiny” “I literally groomed and raped underage girls, filmed it, and used the videos to groom more underage girls to rape and film” Bonnell
is Bonnell going to go to prison for that shit or what
Oh I think he’s ultra double secret mega fucked. My favorite part was when the messages got out from him talking to a community member/obiter (can’t remember) and they asked him why he has gigs and gigs of self shot revenge/kiddy porn:
“I can’t delete it that would be interfering with an investigation.”
The fuck 😅
they asked him why he has gigs and gigs of self shot revenge/kiddy porn:
“I can’t delete it that would be interfering with an investigation.”
Some bizarre ouroboros of pederasty that could only come out of this dude’s mouth
Huh what the fuck
Steven “Destiny” “I literally groomed andremovedd underage girls, filmed it, and used the videos to groom more underage girls toremoved and film” Bonnell
*Bonnacelli
You know what’s crazy? I go outside and hear nothing about this. Vast majority of the world has no idea who Hasan even is but if you go online, particualry Reddit, you’d think this was a global catastrophe.
because its literally just being pushed by a small cult of destiny/h3h3 orbiters and their buddy who runs a doxxing company or whatever (dan saltman). Their reach is limited to a few subreddits, some parts of twitter, and manufactured articles like this one that look legit but are basically just blogs because of how forbes works. Their bs breaks containment occasionally if they come up with a convincing enough smear or clip but it has no IRL traction, and honestly isn’t even that big online outside of their little bubbles where they have critical mass or complicit mods, etc.
I think social media with feedback loops like TikTok also make them think it has more motion when it’s really just the algorithm showing them what they want to see
Bonus:
It’s like Christmas for people who stopped going outside mid 2021
It’s so terminally online, how can anyone care outside of making fun if it? It’s dumb streamer drama how does it get on Forbes?
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forbes’ contributor program is one step above a blog. It only exists for them to rent their name recognition to mostly useless shitbags in exchange for content and SEO ranking. Using forbes’ name to smear rivals is a known tactic of destiny/h3h3 and their buddy dan saltman who runs a data privacy company that appears to be just a front for a doxxing operation
You know with the amount of hate Hasan gets, it would definitely qualify to be called ‘Hasan derangement syndrome’
This whole thing is a pysop precision engineered to inflict as much mental damage onto us as possible
Excuse me, this is a screenshot from the actual stream. They’re just reporting the news
Some of the image edits are funny due to the level of internet derangement and effort involved.
Probably by a Forbes Contributor, who are freelancers who write about most anything. Destiny (the game, not the guy) fans are probably familiar with Paul Tassi whose articles on the game are published that way
Bro’s on that “I must consult the elder gods” type shit