This stupid shit has really reached levels of dumb that I can’t handle. Wtf is anything? Why does Forbes care?

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    FYI “published on forbes” has about the same level of vetting as “published on substack” or “posted on lemmy”. Almost anyone can do it with a little bit of determination.

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    Thousands of carnists suddenly care about animal rights when a small group of basement-dwelling nazis tell them a socialist used a shock collar on a dog once and apparently that’s news

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      to the extent that some normies are getting swept up in the smear campaign because they’ve never heard of LSF or destiny, they’re caring about a pet and the violation of the owner’s social obligation to his pet, rather than animal rights nebulously. No idea why that shit rated a forbes article.

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      The suffering of something that people aren’t very familiar with seems distant. The suffering of something that people are very familiar with seems immediate. You know we’re kind of fucked in the hearts and minds department if we can’t wrap our heads around the very basic contradiction of “I eat meat but don’t like seeing a dog get hurt” that the vast, vast, vast majority of people live with.

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              It is a contradiction for people to claim to be upset about animal abuse but only care when it’s pets. They’re not upset about animal abuse, they’re upset about pet abuse. That’s just a logical conclusion from a set of facts, you don’t even need to be vegan to see it.

              It’s like @Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net said in this thread.

              to the extent that some normies are getting swept up in the smear campaign because they’ve never heard of LSF or destiny, they’re caring about a pet and the violation of the owner’s social obligation to his pet, rather than animal rights nebulously. No idea why that shit rated a forbes article.

              It is in fact “a contradiction” for these same people to claim that it’s animal abuse that bothers them.

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                i wouldn’t engage with the person you responded to. they had their feelings hurt by a vegan once and now they refresh search terms adjacent to veganism to find people to play pedantics with. all you’ll get are terse answers which latch onto the smallest, poorest phrasing in your argument. it’s a personal vendetta.

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                i think a lot of people probably say “animal abuse” when they meant the more specific case and it takes a place like this for the difference to matter. might even be “animal abuse” statutorily but only ever applied to pets and guide dogs.

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                  Are we really trying to get off on the technicality that it doesn’t count as abuse if the animal has already been murdered? Eating animal products is participation in systemic animal abuse on a vast and infinitely cruel scale. It’s a contradiction in the same way it would be a contradiction to say “I don’t like pedophiles but I’m fine with child trafficking.”

                  There is no such thing as ethical consumption of animal products, by the way.

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    Ah yes the article who only directly quotes two people:

    Ethan “My wife is a (literal) terrorist” Klein

    Steven “Destiny” “I literally groomed and raped underage girls, filmed it, and used the videos to groom more underage girls to rape and film” Bonnell

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        Oh I think he’s ultra double secret mega fucked. My favorite part was when the messages got out from him talking to a community member/obiter (can’t remember) and they asked him why he has gigs and gigs of self shot revenge/kiddy porn:

        “I can’t delete it that would be interfering with an investigation.”

        The fuck 😅

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    You know what’s crazy? I go outside and hear nothing about this. Vast majority of the world has no idea who Hasan even is but if you go online, particualry Reddit, you’d think this was a global catastrophe.

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      because its literally just being pushed by a small cult of destiny/h3h3 orbiters and their buddy who runs a doxxing company or whatever (dan saltman). Their reach is limited to a few subreddits, some parts of twitter, and manufactured articles like this one that look legit but are basically just blogs because of how forbes works. Their bs breaks containment occasionally if they come up with a convincing enough smear or clip but it has no IRL traction, and honestly isn’t even that big online outside of their little bubbles where they have critical mass or complicit mods, etc.

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          forbes’ contributor program is one step above a blog. It only exists for them to rent their name recognition to mostly useless shitbags in exchange for content and SEO ranking. Using forbes’ name to smear rivals is a known tactic of destiny/h3h3 and their buddy dan saltman who runs a data privacy company that appears to be just a front for a doxxing operation

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    Probably by a Forbes Contributor, who are freelancers who write about most anything. Destiny (the game, not the guy) fans are probably familiar with Paul Tassi whose articles on the game are published that way