As a general rule I don’t engage in definition nitpicking arguments because they’re almost universally fartsniffing contests between people with too high opinions of themselves. That’s why Jordan Peterson does it all the time. There’s a lot of cool information to be gleaned from etymology and linguistics, unfortunately most people only engage with the topic to use as a shiv for some other political point they want to make but are too insecure to directly engage with.
You clearly know what meaning was intended to be conveyed by the word. So if you know what people mean when they say something, why pretend like you don’t? It’s dishonest.
“All governments are inherently authoritarian. […] I have no idea what this individual actually meant. That theyre mad they cant murder someone or theyre mad they cant vote for highly technical government positions that should be based on merit, not popularity.”
See, there it is. You’re trying to softball a political argument by pretending it’s an linguistic argument, and I have no respect for this level of cowardice and dishonesty, nor do I have the patience to beat around the bush looking for the real argument.
Next time, if you want to be taken seriously, just own it instead of bullshitting. Say what you believe and stand on your principles.
I feel like Britain kinda had that, as did other less imperialistic countries in Europe that also fought the Nazis. Does that make the British empire any better? No, they were still an empire that did bad shit, and they’re on track to lose all those gains to human well-being they’ve seen since WWII
China is the biggest example. They might’ve been knocked down for a while by western powers, but they’re on track to dominate the 21st century after exploiting global capitalism better than America ever did. They’ve been exerting economic coercion and disputing the borders of basically all their neighbors so much that many of them would rather ally with the evil empire just to balance things out. Russia also got severely curtailed following the collapse of the Soviet empire, but they’re looking to rebuild it.
There are many other smaller scale forces that seek more local conquest and spheres of influence. Turkish nationalists wish to rebuild the ottoman empire, which is extra funny when you’re in a federation with some of the places you’re trying to conquer. India could be a major empire in the future, but they’re not quite there yet. Israel is looking to carve out a Jewish ethnostate with the backing of western supremacists.
Those have done ok locally, but there are reasons why such movements haven’t aquired the importance or the results of other socialist experiments, e.g no rapid industrialization. I hope they never have to face open threats of genocide and extermination by capitalist armies as the Bolsheviks or the North Koreans did.
More leftists, less tankies
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Yeah, but they’re also so authoritarian they end up creating a police state that is not too different from a fascist one.
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Wrong, and may you never see the real difference
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Truly whenever a government says things like “you can’t have child brides or slaves” it is authoritarianism, big think
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ok
Me when I’m up against Jordan Peterson in a Pretending To Not Understand Words Contest
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As a general rule I don’t engage in definition nitpicking arguments because they’re almost universally fartsniffing contests between people with too high opinions of themselves. That’s why Jordan Peterson does it all the time. There’s a lot of cool information to be gleaned from etymology and linguistics, unfortunately most people only engage with the topic to use as a shiv for some other political point they want to make but are too insecure to directly engage with.
You clearly know what meaning was intended to be conveyed by the word. So if you know what people mean when they say something, why pretend like you don’t? It’s dishonest.
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“All governments are inherently authoritarian. […] I have no idea what this individual actually meant. That theyre mad they cant murder someone or theyre mad they cant vote for highly technical government positions that should be based on merit, not popularity.”
See, there it is. You’re trying to softball a political argument by pretending it’s an linguistic argument, and I have no respect for this level of cowardice and dishonesty, nor do I have the patience to beat around the bush looking for the real argument.
Next time, if you want to be taken seriously, just own it instead of bullshitting. Say what you believe and stand on your principles.
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Definitely not true for lemmy.
Not a lot of them, but they’re really loud and prolific in their posting
Propaganda 101.
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lemmy.ml? Opinion discarded.
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Another opinion from a lemmy.ml user, opinion discarded.
Wow what a loser position to take.
Fuck China, long live Taiwan.
Fuck Canada, Long live Alberta.
I hope Alberta fucking leaves honestly. We’ll trade the US New England for Alberta.
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I guess we should rep up and coming empires instead?
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I feel like Britain kinda had that, as did other less imperialistic countries in Europe that also fought the Nazis. Does that make the British empire any better? No, they were still an empire that did bad shit, and they’re on track to lose all those gains to human well-being they’ve seen since WWII
Exciting, please name one
China is the biggest example. They might’ve been knocked down for a while by western powers, but they’re on track to dominate the 21st century after exploiting global capitalism better than America ever did. They’ve been exerting economic coercion and disputing the borders of basically all their neighbors so much that many of them would rather ally with the evil empire just to balance things out. Russia also got severely curtailed following the collapse of the Soviet empire, but they’re looking to rebuild it.
There are many other smaller scale forces that seek more local conquest and spheres of influence. Turkish nationalists wish to rebuild the ottoman empire, which is extra funny when you’re in a federation with some of the places you’re trying to conquer. India could be a major empire in the future, but they’re not quite there yet. Israel is looking to carve out a Jewish ethnostate with the backing of western supremacists.
Of course, that’s a bit more than one 😁
More Allendes, fewer Fidels?
I’d rather have more Malatesta, Zapata and Ocallan.
Those have done ok locally, but there are reasons why such movements haven’t aquired the importance or the results of other socialist experiments, e.g no rapid industrialization. I hope they never have to face open threats of genocide and extermination by capitalist armies as the Bolsheviks or the North Koreans did.