Ever heard of Barack Obama? 2009 winner. During his terms to 2017, ordered 1,878 drone strikes. Unknown number of innocent people killed. 2017 was 8 years ago.
Unironically the best POTUS of the last half century, saved millions from death and suffering by expanding Medicaid and funding deradicalization programs.
George W. Bush and his administration played musical chairs with the CIA leadership until they got one willing to fabricate evidence of WMDs in Iraq and then invade to the sole benefit of Exxon Mobil, the Obama admin was a million fucking times better than that.
Yeah, yeah, he only doubled down on detaining and torturing without trial, dragged the Afghanistan war/occupation on for another decade, and posthumously reclassified civilian drone-strike deaths as “combatants”.
You seem to have read what I typed and believe it and yet somehow still believe Obama didn’t take us in a positive direction away from that barbarism. You’re insane.
Did he? Cus it kinda seems like he kept all the “barbaric” tools on the table, used quite a few of them himself, and now we’re left with Trump handling all of them. You consider that a positive direction?
Nobody who has replied to you has defended Trump. We have all been trying to point out that this idea that nobody has tried to violate rights until Trump is laughable. Rounding people up is a favorite pastime of white people in this country. This time is only different because people who consider themselves white are being targeted too. Suggesting that that makes this time worse is part of what got you downvoted.
Okay but I wasn’t required to go back 200 years to find an example…
Okay, who else is your example? President Operation Wetback?
Ever heard of Barack Obama? 2009 winner. During his terms to 2017, ordered 1,878 drone strikes. Unknown number of innocent people killed. 2017 was 8 years ago.
Unironically the best POTUS of the last half century, saved millions from death and suffering by expanding Medicaid and funding deradicalization programs.
God that’s bleak. Our best, and he’s still nearly indistinguishable from giving George W. Bush a third and fourth term.
George W. Bush and his administration played musical chairs with the CIA leadership until they got one willing to fabricate evidence of WMDs in Iraq and then invade to the sole benefit of Exxon Mobil, the Obama admin was a million fucking times better than that.
Yeah, yeah, he only doubled down on detaining and torturing without trial, dragged the Afghanistan war/occupation on for another decade, and posthumously reclassified civilian drone-strike deaths as “combatants”.
A million times a negative is still a negative.
You seem to have read what I typed and believe it and yet somehow still believe Obama didn’t take us in a positive direction away from that barbarism. You’re insane.
Did he? Cus it kinda seems like he kept all the “barbaric” tools on the table, used quite a few of them himself, and now we’re left with Trump handling all of them. You consider that a positive direction?
Correct, the deporter-in-chief legitimized that barbarism and expanded on it.
Are you saying we didn’t have a president in 1954?
At this point I am fairly certain you are a troll and I am tagging you as such. Good day.
Forgive me for not taking this conversation very seriously, I kind of wrote you off as any sensible person when you started defending the Trump admin.
Nobody who has replied to you has defended Trump. We have all been trying to point out that this idea that nobody has tried to violate rights until Trump is laughable. Rounding people up is a favorite pastime of white people in this country. This time is only different because people who consider themselves white are being targeted too. Suggesting that that makes this time worse is part of what got you downvoted.
Normalizing this administration is both inaccurate and a defense of it.
Jesus christ dude, you’re really insufferable.