I’ve been trying Lemmy for a little while and wasn’t sure how to feel about it.
Today, I wanted to start blocking the most high-censorship instances until I could find a fully zero-censorship instance and simply block all the ones with censorship. Filter bots, not people.
When I looked into it further, I found out there are no zero-censorship instances, because Lemmy relies on a broken “federation” system where each instance is supposed to be able to fetch posts from other instances, but it’s never been finished to reach a fully working state. Lemmy’s official docs say you can’t even do federation over Tor at all. This means it uses DNS, so it won’t actually allow Lemmy instances to fetch posts from each other freely, it just gets blocked instantly and easily, every time the authorities feel like blocking anything.
So you can only ever have the “average joe lemmy” and “average joe reddit” with everything approved by the authorities, and then “tor copies of lemmy” and “tor copies of reddit” where you have free speech but you can only reach other nerds.
People seem to think Lemmy is different because this weird censorship fetish is extremely popular and most of you are happy to see bans happen to certain people, not just bots, so a small Lemmy that censors certain people feels fundamentally different from a big reddit that censors more people. But it’s the exact same thing, it’s reddit.
When reddit was smaller, you could say basically anything you wanted there, they just wouldn’t let it reach the main audience. Then it got too big, and any tiny part of the audience you could reach would be too big, so they won’t let you talk at all.
Lemmy is now the small part of reddit where you can say whatever you want, separated from the main audience, until too much growth happens and you have to move again.
It’s not actually a solution to reddit. It’s not designed to be different, it’s designed to match the past today and then match reddit’s present tomorrow, while being part of a system that’s about the same in past, present, and future.
Last year, this year, and next year, you’re posting somewhere it won’t be seen by many people, and the system that charges people for ambulance rides is getting another year of ambulance ride revenue, facing no organized resistance. There’s no difference here.
Lemmy urgently needs federation between onion service instances and DNS addresses in order to actually do what most users seem to wish it would do: allow discussion outside what the corporate authorities allow, while outgrowing reddit & helping undo the damage social media has done to human communication.
Incorrect. You’re aware that’s not what I was suggesting, you’re just making shit up and pretending it’s how it “seems” because you’re very dishonest.
Didn’t ask.
No, I’m not. Your original post:
“Lemmy urgently needs federation between onion service instances and DNS addresses in order to actually do what most users seem to wish it would do: allow discussion outside what the corporate authorities allow, while outgrowing reddit & helping undo the damage social media has done to human communication.”
Doesn’t matter. That you misidentify the purpose of the Fediverse, and why people are here is precisely why your ideas aren’t interesting and even offputting to many people.
Yep, you are. You’re just dishonest.
I’m guessing you copied and pasted that. Good job? Not reading it to check.
Didn’t ask if it mattered to you.
Incorrect. I don’t do that, so it can’t be the reason. And the reason is because a lot of users here are mentally ill.
Yes, it’s your words where you suggested the goal of the Fediverse was to outgrow reddit.
You’ve repeatedly shown you don’t understand the basics of the purpose of the fediverse to most users here.
Incorrect. I don’t have any words where I suggested the goal of the Fediverse was to outgrow reddit.
It’s also probably not anything like that. Breaking it down into components, I try to remember not to say brand names like “Fediverse” have “goals” like people, and even though I mess that up sometimes, I also don’t know if the people who run the “Fediverse brand name” want to outgrow reddit, so I don’t think I’d say that.
Incorrect. I haven’t discussed it enough to do that. I barely know what the “fediverse” is at all. It’s only been mentioned in this thread a few times, where I have been able to understand enough to give logical replies.
The Fediverse just is what it’s shorthand referred to now because it’s not just Lemmy that people use. I’m not o na Lemmy instance.
Precisely. So I don’t know you’re taking such a strong position on what the future ought be when you’re broadly unfamiliar with vast amounts of it.
I absolutely did not ask.
What the fuck? Everyone(?) is broadly unfamiliar with vast amounts of the future, everyone should still have a strong position on what the future ought to be.
So what? You made a comment about the Fediverse term, and I replied.
I mean unfamiliar WITH THE FEDIVERSE. Not the future. Mr. “I’m so good at English”.
So it’s yet another random subject-change that I’ve been, for hours, making it clear you should stop.
I didn’t ask if I did.
I didn’t ask if you replied.
I didn’t ask what you meant, the “what the fuck” was an expression of how bewildered I was at your mental illness.
Again, I didn’t ask.
You seem to have me confused with someone who asked what you meant. I don’t see anyone who asked what you meant. I just see me, who understood what you meant, but didn’t feel like addressing the secret meaning of your words when it seemed more enjoyable to make fun of you yet again for being bad at typing.