Because it distinguishes us from the USA. Good enough for me. No one takes these inbred clowns seriously any way.
There are many other factors that make us unique, rather than this parasite that collectively costs us a fortune for zero return
End monarchy, now!There are many other factors that make us unique
not really, Ontario and Alberta are just acting like US states. MAGA Premieres.
You’re Canadian because of monarchy, wtf is that stance?
Second best reason I’ve seen for keeping them around.
Not this shit again. Every time a royal hiccups, some homeroom hero needs to jump out and claim they’re bad for us somehow.
We have actual problems to discuss.
To remove the monarchy from our system would require opening up the constitution, which is opening up a huuuuge opportunity for problems. The benefits aren’t worth the risk, especially in today’s political climate. We don’t need a Brexit level fuckup because the average person is easy to sway with fear mongering and racism.
They’re figureheads and effectively have zero power over Canada, why get rid of them?
Cause I don’t believe in a family having inherited billions that was pillaged through slavery and colonization.
I agree, but it’s not worth the risk when they have zero power over Canada.
Pillaged through slavery? I’m of who cares. I do not want to be a republic. And if we got rid of the monarchy we would replace it with a president with no power like the GG so who cares.
Ummm…so, what does Prince Andrew have to do with Canadian government? What official role exactly, does he play in Canadian politics? Oh. None? Ok.
So, who the fuck cares, then? This loser has all but been completely disowned by the Royal family, anyway.
Right, whereas Charles is morality incarnate.
What official role exactly, does he play in Canadian politics?
In explicitly politics? Not much. But as a royal dignitary, he’s entitled to a host of benefits reserved for the Monarch and their representatives.
While Canada might not pay money directly to the monarchy, the country’s ties to the House of Windsor could cost taxpayers more than $58.7 million annually.
The $58.7 million would not cover more recent costs to taxpayers, like then-Prince Charles’ three-day visit to Canada in May 2022, which totalled at least $1.4 million or more.
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In 2022, the Canadian government also spent nearly $400,000 on hotel rooms during the funeral for Queen Elizabeth II; a figure that included a luxurious $6,000-a-night river-view suite for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his wife.
Governor General Mary Simon, who is the monarch’s representative in Canada, racked up an over $80,000 catering bill with her entourage during a March 2022 trip to the Middle East that reportedly cost more than $1.3 million, according to the National Post. The newspaper also reported that Simon’s first official overseas trip to a German book fair in Oct. 2021 fair cost taxpayers over $700,000.
Other recent monarchy-related costs have still not been released, or are not yet available, like those associated with the RCMP giving a horse to King Charles as a gift in March, as well as costs tied to sending a Canadian delegation to the King’s upcoming May 6 coronation ceremony. In 2022, Canadian taxpayers also bankrolled Platinum Jubilee celebrations to mark Queen Elizabeth’s 70 years on the throne, which included a $187,500 grant to the Monarchist League of Canada to distribute 70,000 educational booklets. The Royal Canadian Geographical Society has received $257,000 in similar educational funding to celebrate King Charles’ coronation.
As brother to King Charlies, whose personal incomes were estimated at around £20 million/year as of 2023, its safe to assume he’s influential purely based on his enormous personal fortune. How much of a role a second-son to a British Billionaire actually plays is always up for debate. Andrew’s a notorious fuck-up and moron, so you’d like to think he doesn’t play a significant role in UK-Canadian relations. But Canada’s got its own crop of idiots and assholes - several also tied up in the Epstein scandal. So who is to say what he’s been up to behind the scenes?
They don’t even list a cost they say could cost us this much. Not that it does.
Yeah, could is doing a fair bit of lifting. What, does he have to decide to stay here full-time? Well, sure, if he did that, I’m sure security, dignitary visits, etc. could ramp us up to those numbers, but the entire royal family usually only costs us a few million a year for their visits. Increasing that by a factor of 20 for just one individual seems a bit alarmist.
Now, I can accept there are perfectly legitimate reasons to want to get rid of the monarchy, I just don’t see it as worth it from a pragmatic or financial standpoint. If they decide to have more impact than their quaint celebrity status and their names on a few rubber stamps, I imagine a lot of people like me would shrug and say, “Welp, end of a era, looks like we’re designing some new money.” I expect prince Andrew deciding to cost us almost $60M while having to put up with his presence would do it. And don’t think the rest of his family doesn’t know it.
Whenever royals visit Canada, the government pays millions in security costs, travel, lodging, etc.
We also pay millions in security costs when we host lots of foreign government people. The hosting of the g7 summit this year cost us what, $600 million?
Keeping that connection to Europe alive (especially right now) is well worth the cost in my opinion.
And that money would just be spent on the new head-of-state instead, if we decided to get rid of the monarchy.
(Don’t suggest making the Prime Minister the head-of-state, even as a joke. Combining the legislative and executive branches is Not A Good Idea.)
We already have a Governer General, we wouldn’t even be changing any structures. Just removing the symbolic power and giving it to the Governer General to begin with.
I’d be happy to kill that office. Every GG we have had has been a money burning asshole.
Except that that opens an even larger can of worms.
Currently, the GG is selected on the PM’s recommendation. We’ve gotten away with that so far because there’s a disinterested party staring over the PM’s shoulder in the form of the monarch (reducing the chance of really dodgy recommendations) and because no PM has yet run off the rails the way Trump is doing down south.
In every government decision except the selection of the GG, the GG is the disinterested person staring over the PM’s shoulder. Even if they don’t normally exercise any power, I don’t want a position that could act as a check for the PM being decided on by the PM. So we then have to move to some other method of selecting the GG. The most usual method in other countries is by holding a separate election, but that immediately pisses a huge amount of money down the drain. And that’s without dragging in the constitutional amendment considerations.
I’d rather just spend a trivial (on national budget scales) amount of money on the monarchy and keep the worms firmly enclosed in their cylindrical metal containers, thanks very much.
True, GG should probably be chosen in a different fasion. It’s still a well established position with a well defined role, no need to restructure the whole government if we do decide to fully leave England’s royal system. I think that restructuring would open a lot more cans.
Agree.
Is that cheaper then the Canadian Mint re-issuing new bills and coins without the King and Queen on them?
We wouldn’t have to pull the old bills and coins out of service. Just for a new design for new ones.
The Mint does not produce notes, only coins.
Who prints the bills?
Canadian Bank Note. A private company.
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Sure. If attending a single dinner party back in 2014, makes them “buddies”.
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Lol! You’re joking, right? Dude, that isn’t even AI…it’s just photoshopped. smh.
You guys just believe anything, huh?
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I have no idea. You tell me.
That’s an uninformed question. Canada does not have a monarchy and it is no longer a “dominion”. There are historical traces and current practices, mostly based on respect and civility. Look back at any individual or group over time. There are always atrocities. We should fight the monster we can see, not the dead one that is being discussed.
Canada does not have a monarchy and it is no longer a “dominion”.
Actually, we’re still a constitutional monarchy (the monarch is the de jure head-of-state, but does not wield absolute power), and the designation “Dominion of Canada” was never officially withdrawn as far as I know, it’s just that no one, even the government, uses it anymore. (“Dominion” is effectively meaningless in this context, anyway—it’s a word that was semi-randomly chosen back in the 19th century because people were afraid that “Kingdom of Canada” would give the Americans hives.)
But yeah, we have much better things to do with our time than worry about shenanigans by minor members of the royal family.
Actually, we’re still a constitutional monarchy
We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
Our symbolic ties to the monarchy are useful when facing annexation from the south. Can we not rightly denounce child predators without jettisoning one of our only lifelines on principle?
The UK caved to the US basically immediately. Hardly a reliable ally in this. They picked the US as besties over us, which should not really surprise. The financial ties of London and New York are stronger and far more alive in 2025 than the old Commonwealth ties of Canada and the UK, not to mention their security and intelligence ties.
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I’m downvoting you not necessarily because I disagree but because this “source” (Facebook post of headline screenshotted with no URL) is horrendous
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Yeah I have zero love or care for the monarchy. It should be abolished in Canada stat. We do however need a symbol, that’s Canadian, that’s non-political, that has term limits, that Indigenous treaty holders can still honour their treaties with. Something that Indigenous communities hold in as high regard as the crown. The monarchy will be tough to displace on that aspect.
Why still a monarchy? Because the monarch family is friendly and on our side. If you can tame the lion, you don’t have to put it to sleep.
everytime this comes up, its the same song and dance.
The monarchy stops things like Jan6th from happening, probably would have limited the whole hanging chads thing as well. They (via the GG) have peacefully resolved the 2008 constitutional crisis as a canadian example. The monarchs power and money is tied to exactly one thing, the current political system continuing, that is their only power and it aligns with their incentives. I don’t like the monarchs, but I like constitutional monarchies and I don’t see a good way of setting up a new head of state that isn’t elected (and thus corruptible). Perhaps a Native leader of some kind.
A lot of privileged Canadians are discomforted by the possibility of putting themselves at risk to do the right thing. Canada is an extractive enterprise, nothing more. People have meaningful lives within it, but this system is evil and this man’s ability to rape with impunity is directly connected to the existence of a monarchy in Canada’s constitution. It’s true that removing the monarchy from this system would be dangerous to people who benefit from colonialism, including every able-bodied, well-off, white, cishet Canadian citizen. To say that it would somehow introduce new dangers to the rest of us works to occlude that the current objective of the Canadian state is indeed eradication of other groups. As a liberal state, it certainly appropriates inclusivity and “progress” into its aesthetics. Make no mistake though, this is a tactic it uses to assimilate groups it does not want to exist.
If Canada cannot exist without colonialism, then it should not exist. Period. If you hate that idea, then you should think hard about what your morals are. Can you live with yourself if you truly care more about your own status over the wellbeing of everyone else in the world?
naw, i like the king.
Dork shit tbh.
thanks for the insult.
I know it’s what you wanted. Genuine favour.
Canada is your mom and I’m inside of her.
And just like my mom, it’s evil and abusive with terrible taste in men.
And dripping wet on both sides.
You mean three sides.
Same as us in Australia I’m guessing. Most would probably ditch the crown, but it’s so irrelevant to how the country is run and there are way bigger issues. It takes a fuckton of work to organise a republic. Maybe one day, just not now.
It’s the root cause of other issues
Gough Whitlam being removed from office by a Brit, who was being puppeteered by the CIA as it turns out, is definitely a root issue I’d like to see cut out before it happens again.
Because we hate the Americans and use it to say we’re different. Same as always.
