This doesnt break any rules folks, and I think we’ve made the point clear. If Zohran can have an anti-imperialist position on Gaza he should be able to have one on Venezuela. Simple as.
I know it’s like part of his job to know stuff but I personally couldn’t give a coherent sentence about Venezuela. I’d probably agree with the sort of general hexbear consensus but I haven’t done the work to integrated it cognitively.
Palestine is something I have been thinking about (if casually) for 20+ years. And much more strongly for 2+ years. Doesn’t almost everybody on planet earth have a stronger analysis of Gaza than Venezuela?
What I’m saying is, please don’t make me mayor of NYC. I haven’t read enough books. I probably shouldn’t even be the deputy mayor.
The simple answer he could have given is “We have a president who is destroying fishing boats off the coast of a foreign nation using our advanced navel warships. Think what you will about Venezuela and its leader, these are dangerous actions that put all of us, Americans and Venezuelans in danger.”
Would you knee-jerk call it a dictatorship? This is the liberalism that DSA chauvinists default to, it’s what appeasing imperialist libs looks like, and it’s how he presented himself and therefore the hot new branding of American socialism.
Oh I don’t really mean you in particular like I’m interrogating you. I just mean that he said something pretty bad.
And I don’t give folks like this the benefit of the doubt. They have heard this kind of lecture many times even within just DSA. They are triangulating and/or sharing their actual chauvinism.
Then it makes even more embarrassing that the DSA can’t even come up with a strategic line for mandani other than the mainstream imperialist line which, as can be presumed, most Americans aren’t even well informed about.
Having a good line on Gaza is the difference between genocide enjoyer and not. Nobody should EVER be praised for being in support of Gaza and Palestine.
This doesnt break any rules folks, and I think we’ve made the point clear. If Zohran can have an anti-imperialist position on Gaza he should be able to have one on Venezuela. Simple as.
I know it’s like part of his job to know stuff but I personally couldn’t give a coherent sentence about Venezuela. I’d probably agree with the sort of general hexbear consensus but I haven’t done the work to integrated it cognitively.
Palestine is something I have been thinking about (if casually) for 20+ years. And much more strongly for 2+ years. Doesn’t almost everybody on planet earth have a stronger analysis of Gaza than Venezuela?
What I’m saying is, please don’t make me mayor of NYC. I haven’t read enough books. I probably shouldn’t even be the deputy mayor.
The simple answer he could have given is “We have a president who is destroying fishing boats off the coast of a foreign nation using our advanced navel warships. Think what you will about Venezuela and its leader, these are dangerous actions that put all of us, Americans and Venezuelans in danger.”
Would you knee-jerk call it a dictatorship? This is the liberalism that DSA chauvinists default to, it’s what appeasing imperialist libs looks like, and it’s how he presented himself and therefore the hot new branding of American socialism.
I probably wouldn’t now. But I can kinda imagine if I’d had a really good late night with the right person I could be influenced into it.
He should’ve just said he doesn’t have an opinion.
Chana I know you’re right you’ve demonstrated it over n over.
Oh I don’t really mean you in particular like I’m interrogating you. I just mean that he said something pretty bad.
And I don’t give folks like this the benefit of the doubt. They have heard this kind of lecture many times even within just DSA. They are triangulating and/or sharing their actual chauvinism.
I’m not ragging on you I’m saying I appreciate your continued efforts in making your points and I find them convincing. :)
Then it makes even more embarrassing that the DSA can’t even come up with a strategic line for mandani other than the mainstream imperialist line which, as can be presumed, most Americans aren’t even well informed about.
Having a good line on Gaza is the difference between genocide enjoyer and not. Nobody should EVER be praised for being in support of Gaza and Palestine.