I have only a passing interest in the shenanigans of NY USA because of the insanity of Eric Adams (seriously, people just… let that go on?)
As an outsider it seems that this is a moment that the envelope of what are you are allowed to talk about, what ideas get taken seriously, got pushed to the left. I suspect he will dissapoint, political machines are very hard to shift and no doubt he’ll face a lot of opposition but like: A mainstream pollie got elected saying shit like “tax the rich” and “set up government run enterprise” in a country that is so allergic to collectivism they regularly permit children to be mass murdered.
It shows that left wing populist ideas are still, in fact, popular in the country, and not at all as some Hexbears (and certain segment of terminally online left) have claimed that the American people are a total lost cause. Funny that I’ve been accused of being a “doomer” by some of these same people.
Having said that, the election of a single mayor means nothing if there is no political movement that emerges from this. And nothing is going to get done if there is no movement behind Mamdani that can translate the energy into political action.
I mean, I’d say social-democratic ideas in america are more hurtful than anything, since it inherently doesn’t address the contradiction of the working classes of the global south and the west. Even if they do push the envelope, what success is that when they still inherently work against the interests of the working classes of the world at large? All you’re getting with those ideas is a v*ush worldview.
I think the ideological leanings of the western left are concurrently irrelevant on the whole, and considering that Mamdani and his breed are getting more alike , they would be more hurtful to the international working class than helpful.
If revolution in the global south happens first, then the revenues of both the proles and the capitalists in the west would be relatively decreased, since the goods made in the global south would be more expensive due to wage increases in case of intensified class struggle and even victory of the proletariat in the global south. Only once the west has been immiserated in terms of it’s revenues for both classes, will the proles blame the bourgeoisie and revolt against them, enabling them to fight against them without hurting the global south.
It would be quite the contrary if the “revolutions” would happen in the west first, especially of variety of Mamdani and the rest. They would be hard-pressed, simply by their material interests, to actually help the global south, since their consumption funds would be depreciated. Socialism for me but not for thee. No doubt that maybe you and the other comrades of Hexbear would be opposed to this, but you would ultimately represent oscillations in a movement where the interests of the workers of the west are paramount. I just think revolutionary defeatism is the ultimate tool of a true western communist, whereas the upheaval ultimately ending in some kind of social democracy for america, which in Mamdani’s own words denounces the liberatory movements of the global south, would simply continue the fundamental contradiction of imperialism in our world.
I have only a passing interest in the shenanigans of NY USA because of the insanity of Eric Adams (seriously, people just… let that go on?)
As an outsider it seems that this is a moment that the envelope of what are you are allowed to talk about, what ideas get taken seriously, got pushed to the left. I suspect he will dissapoint, political machines are very hard to shift and no doubt he’ll face a lot of opposition but like: A mainstream pollie got elected saying shit like “tax the rich” and “set up government run enterprise” in a country that is so allergic to collectivism they regularly permit children to be mass murdered.
Seems like an encouraging sign?
It shows that left wing populist ideas are still, in fact, popular in the country, and not at all as some Hexbears (and certain segment of terminally online left) have claimed that the American people are a total lost cause. Funny that I’ve been accused of being a “doomer” by some of these same people.
Having said that, the election of a single mayor means nothing if there is no political movement that emerges from this. And nothing is going to get done if there is no movement behind Mamdani that can translate the energy into political action.
four shore, I hope that people can keep the momentum going. Basically everyone would benefit from a less… bleak… usa.
I mean, I’d say social-democratic ideas in america are more hurtful than anything, since it inherently doesn’t address the contradiction of the working classes of the global south and the west. Even if they do push the envelope, what success is that when they still inherently work against the interests of the working classes of the world at large? All you’re getting with those ideas is a v*ush worldview.
Do you think people will leapfrog from imperialist liberalism to revolutionary communism without a path of political development? Did you do that?
I think the ideological leanings of the western left are concurrently irrelevant on the whole, and considering that Mamdani and his breed are getting more alike
, they would be more hurtful to the international working class than helpful.
If revolution in the global south happens first, then the revenues of both the proles and the capitalists in the west would be relatively decreased, since the goods made in the global south would be more expensive due to wage increases in case of intensified class struggle and even victory of the proletariat in the global south. Only once the west has been immiserated in terms of it’s revenues for both classes, will the proles blame the bourgeoisie and revolt against them, enabling them to fight against them without hurting the global south.
It would be quite the contrary if the “revolutions” would happen in the west first, especially of variety of Mamdani and the rest. They would be hard-pressed, simply by their material interests, to actually help the global south, since their consumption funds would be depreciated. Socialism for me but not for thee. No doubt that maybe you and the other comrades of Hexbear would be opposed to this, but you would ultimately represent oscillations in a movement where the interests of the workers of the west are paramount. I just think revolutionary defeatism is the ultimate tool of a true western communist, whereas the upheaval ultimately ending in some kind of social democracy for america, which in Mamdani’s own words denounces the liberatory movements of the global south, would simply continue the fundamental contradiction of imperialism in our world.
Yeah it’s selling out the global working class for treats like healthcare