If we want socialism to be taken seriously in the US we need to win people over. We do that by speaking to them in their terms and showing them how it can better their material conditions. To most americans “globalize the intafada” at best means nothing and at worst sounds scary and foreign. Insisting on circlejerking over ingroup terminology is only going to alienate people. Saying “globalize the intafada” will not mean anything to most people in the US, but saying “We need to come together as a global community to stop the slaughter of innocent civilians in Palestine” will.
One of the roles of electeds is to act as public educators - teach people why we must globalize the intifada. They have a platform and a duty to use it to raise the consciousness of workers.
Yes, educating people should be one of his goals. But I would say his more important goal should be actually globalizing the intifada. If he has to use different phrasing in the moment to more effectively work towards that then he should. That is especially true when this article was first written because he was still trying to win the election. Spouting off ingroup terminology doesn’t win elections.
I would much rather have him say things wrongly and acheive his actual goals than have him spend his entire term in office getting blocked due to insisting on specific phrasing and spending all his time trying to educate people around that phrasing.
If he has to use different phrasing in the moment to more effectively work towards that then he should.
This is how you win the
Every single person that tells you this will achieve absolutely fucking nothing as they will do nothing but triangulate themselves further and further rightwards to advance their career under the excuse that one day, in the future, it will eventually be worth it when they actually do something to advance our cause. That day will never come, they will just moderate themselves more and more and more to further their position. There will always be a little more adulting in the room needed to further their position just a little bit more to get more power.
It’s just careerist behaviour. Such people become absorbed by the system.
Yeah bro the “influential business owners” totally have our backs and are correct!
You have no class consciousness. These people are literally your enemy and absolutely nothing they say is in your interests. Anything these fucking people don’t like is in your interests.
Start treating class war like an actual war or you’re going to keep making the mistake of agreeing with the words of your enemy.
Start treating class war like an actual war or you’re going to keep making the mistake of agreeing with the words of your enemy.
The level of class consciousness in this country might actually be lower than that of pre October revolution Russia. Bolshevism didn’t arise out of thin air. It took advantage of the working class coalitions and unions already in pace. Lenin himself was influenced by Germany’s SPD. Meanwhile, in this country, a succdem even getting elected to a city office is grounds for excommunication. I’m not saying we should rely on succdems at all but the rhetoric on this site regarding this guy is Ultra shit
If a racist says something that is detrimental to poc and someone is like “Yeah this is a good point actually” I’m going to come down on them for having absolutely no consciousness of racial issues. If a classist says something that is detrimental to the working class and someone is like “Yeah this is a good point actually” they deserve to be scolded for it just the same as someone deserves to be scolded for it on racial issues.
This shit is the classism equivalent of MLK’s white moderate. Calling for exactly the same thing, “calm down”, “wait a little longer”, “do it for strategic reasons”, “in the future it will be better”. No. These calls for moderacy are totally bullshit. They’re the exact same bullshit that people do in racial issues but transferred to class issues instead.
America had a long history of racial struggle before MLK made that statement. Who has been the biggest vanguard for proletarian revolution in US history? Eugene V Debs? Let’s get real here
Unpopular opinion: He’s right.
If we want socialism to be taken seriously in the US we need to win people over. We do that by speaking to them in their terms and showing them how it can better their material conditions. To most americans “globalize the intafada” at best means nothing and at worst sounds scary and foreign. Insisting on circlejerking over ingroup terminology is only going to alienate people. Saying “globalize the intafada” will not mean anything to most people in the US, but saying “We need to come together as a global community to stop the slaughter of innocent civilians in Palestine” will.
One of the roles of electeds is to act as public educators - teach people why we must globalize the intifada. They have a platform and a duty to use it to raise the consciousness of workers.
Yes, educating people should be one of his goals. But I would say his more important goal should be actually globalizing the intifada. If he has to use different phrasing in the moment to more effectively work towards that then he should. That is especially true when this article was first written because he was still trying to win the election. Spouting off ingroup terminology doesn’t win elections.
I would much rather have him say things wrongly and acheive his actual goals than have him spend his entire term in office getting blocked due to insisting on specific phrasing and spending all his time trying to educate people around that phrasing.
This is how you win the
Every single person that tells you this will achieve absolutely fucking nothing as they will do nothing but triangulate themselves further and further rightwards to advance their career under the excuse that one day, in the future, it will eventually be worth it when they actually do something to advance our cause. That day will never come, they will just moderate themselves more and more and more to further their position. There will always be a little more adulting in the room needed to further their position just a little bit more to get more power.
It’s just careerist behaviour. Such people become absorbed by the system.
We can’t let our enemies choose our phrasing for us.
It’s just an Arabic word for resistance and Americans are racist as shit, it’s not hard to understand. Can’t really solve racism before doing anything
That’s where his role comes in as a public educator, make it clear that the attacks against him are just racism.
Instead he just catered to racism.
Yeah bro the “influential business owners” totally have our backs and are correct!
You have no class consciousness. These people are literally your enemy and absolutely nothing they say is in your interests. Anything these fucking people don’t like is in your interests.
Start treating class war like an actual war or you’re going to keep making the mistake of agreeing with the words of your enemy.
The level of class consciousness in this country might actually be lower than that of pre October revolution Russia. Bolshevism didn’t arise out of thin air. It took advantage of the working class coalitions and unions already in pace. Lenin himself was influenced by Germany’s SPD. Meanwhile, in this country, a succdem even getting elected to a city office is grounds for excommunication. I’m not saying we should rely on succdems at all but the rhetoric on this site regarding this guy is Ultra shit
Let’s chill out for a sec.
If a racist says something that is detrimental to poc and someone is like “Yeah this is a good point actually” I’m going to come down on them for having absolutely no consciousness of racial issues. If a classist says something that is detrimental to the working class and someone is like “Yeah this is a good point actually” they deserve to be scolded for it just the same as someone deserves to be scolded for it on racial issues.
This shit is the classism equivalent of MLK’s white moderate. Calling for exactly the same thing, “calm down”, “wait a little longer”, “do it for strategic reasons”, “in the future it will be better”. No. These calls for moderacy are totally bullshit. They’re the exact same bullshit that people do in racial issues but transferred to class issues instead.
America had a long history of racial struggle before MLK made that statement. Who has been the biggest vanguard for proletarian revolution in US history? Eugene V Debs? Let’s get real here