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    • cRazi_man@europe.pubEnglish
      84·
      2 个月前

      Not long before the global population is tied to the track and there’s no one left to pull the switch. The trolley problem has suddenly become an inescapable extinction event.

    • Kwdg@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      48·
      2 个月前

      Let’s look at it this way. Only 34 people have to make this decision at maximum. After that everyone is laying on the track

      • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.worldEnglish
        32·
        2 个月前

        But nobody’s there to pull the switch to run everyone over, so the train barrels on into mathematical impossibility. Does the scenario create people ex nihilo to continue on? Does the simulation crash? We won’t know until we find out.

    • solomonschuler@lemmy.zipEnglish
      4·
      2 个月前

      Well that’s the thing about infinity, as n–> inf it is all more likely for someone to pull the lever than not contrary of the morality of the individual. Which concerns the dillema, do you pull the lever killing one person and ending the experiment, or do you double it, and give someone the opportunity to pull the lever and kill 2^n people. In the end it will happen assuming there is an infinite number of people having the same choice as you do.

    • SkyNTP@lemmy.mlEnglish
      12·
      2 个月前

      You’ll just trust the next person to come along to do the right thing? Yikes.

      Let’s make the experiment a bit more tangible. Would your answer change if the person pulling the lever got a bar of gold for each person run over.

      • cole@lemdro.idEnglish
        2·
        2 个月前

        oooh I like this question. technically it’s not your fault…

  • metaStatic@kbin.earth
    12·
    2 个月前

    if they are removed from the tracks, double it and pass it on.

    if they are moved to the next section, choo choo motherfucker it was going to happen eventually.

  • Rhaedas@fedia.io
    7·
    2 个月前

    Your inaction is what kills more, statistically. Someone will eventually pull the lever to stop the trolley, but by not doing anything, you doomed more people. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. A trolley problem isn’t reality though. You won’t find such absolutism and certainty in the outcome.

    An alternate solution is to jump on the trolley and kill each lever puller before you get to them, forever protecting the growing masses. I’m not sure what that symbolizes. Some sort of constant cost paid to protect the rest of humanity.

    And what lies past the track that kills that one or few people? Maybe something worse that this decision, so killing one seemed the most logical, but actually was far worse than postponing the decision and shrugging the responsibility (which is what this is about really).

      • Rhaedas@fedia.io
        1·
        2 个月前

        I can think of lots of reasons early on, but if it goes on forever why would you think it wouldn’t ever happen?

  • renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    6·
    2 个月前

    the solution, as always, is multitrack drifting. according to some perverted mathematics, 1+2+4+8+16+… actually just equals -1, so you end up reviving one person

  • anugeshtu@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    2 个月前

    Hm, just one quick thought: Wouldn’t it be better to look out which track doesn’t have people lying there? However, far sight only goes that far, I guess

    • Rhaedas@fedia.io
      6·
      2 个月前

      That does change the answer a lot. As drawn if no one ever does anything, everyone is always safe (tied on a track, but alive). Can anyone at the level count on the next people down the line to not pull? Or it is “not my problem”, basically?

      I still say what I said in my other reply, we can only see what’s given to us and assumed is the only problem, but what if there’s worse things down the track that seems the best answer right now? I guess in reality we can only work with what we know, so we have to make some decisions that have blind spots too.

        • Rhaedas@fedia.io
          1·
          2 个月前

          As pictured doing nothing hurts no one… until the next person pulls their level. It passes the responsibility down the line, seemingly, however if someone later pulls their level and kills lots of people, you indirectly could have prevented the scenario from even being played out by just being a killer of one person.

          Assuming like I said, if this is all there is and there aren’t any unknowns out of the picture frame. Which in real life, there’s always something more.