Let’s say you’re the meteorologist and you say that it’s going to rain tomorrow. Another meteorologist says that it’s not going to rain tomorrow. Well it does rain tomorrow. Did you bring an umbrella? Will you share your umbrella with comrades? Is there a lecture attached to the umbrella? If it doesn’t rain, will you still hold the umbrella?
Let’s say Mamdani turns out to be a real piece of shit. Is this the outcome that you wanted? Did you prepare for that outcome? What are you doing to change future outcomes?
What if Mamdani isn’t awful but only accomplishes 1 of this promises? Maybe he makes the buses free. What are you doing to change future outcomes?
If you predict that a train wreck is going to happen and then a train wreck happens. It doesn’t really matter if you were right because the bad thing happened still. Did you want a train wreck to happen? The point is to stop a train wreck rather than to just predict the train wreck.
The point of understanding the world is to change the future, not just to predict the future. If you predict the future and it is not the outcome that benefits your materially reality, then you accomplished nothing.
If you predict that a train wreck is going to happen and then a train wreck happens. It doesn’t really matter if you were right because the bad thing happened still. Did you want a train wreck to happen? The point is to stop a train wreck rather than to just predict the train wreck.
If you predicted the trainwreck would happen (with an explanation of why it would, and examples of past trainwrecks) and people disagreed, then it happened, those same people might do well to pay attention next time you predict a train wreck.
What are you doing to change future outcomes?
This is a forum. We are commenting on current events.
I’m saying that you being correct doesn’t matter if you don’t change future outcomes. When you predict the second train wreck, will you have created a mechanism to stop it or are you going to write the draft for another “I told you so”? Are you going to form the “stopping train wrecks” coalition or do you expect other people in the scenario to form it spontaneously? If you are saying that you have to do more than just being right, then you are agreeing with what I wrote in my previous comments.
Going onto a web forum and saying “I told you so” is not a mechanism of changing future outcomes. It is only a mechanism for collecting upbears.
Going onto a web forum and saying “I told you so” is not a mechanism of changing future outcomes. It is only a mechanism for collecting upbears.
Yes, this is a forum where people discuss things and argue about things. The purpose of predicting things and then later reminding people that you did so would be to convince them your analysis has merit and they should look into it. This is not a revolutionary organization that is able to create “a mechanism to stop it”. I’m not sure why you’re telling people that being right online won’t change the world, they know that. Being right online might change the minds of people who read your posts.
I agree with you that “I told you so” alone probably isn’t productive for discussion. But “as I said before, because of XYZ, ABC” absolutely is.
@dead@hexbear.net the person you’ve replied to has left 27 comments on this post alone. Either they get a dopamine boost from the engagement they receive or they’re a troll.
I think you just enjoy the dopamine boost from getting “upbears”, it’s okay to be wrong sometimes.
A suggestion I would make is you would fair better if you put more of this energy doing things off the web than pointlessly commenting on a shitpost from a person you call a troll. Says a lot more about your character than it does me.
A suggestion I would make is you would fair better if you put more of this energy doing things off the web than pointlessly commenting on a shitpost from a person you call a troll.
The first good point you’ve made to me in this thread is that interacting with you is pointless. And you know what, you kind of got me with that one.
Let’s say you’re the meteorologist and you say that it’s going to rain tomorrow. Another meteorologist says that it’s not going to rain tomorrow. Well it does rain tomorrow. Did you bring an umbrella? Will you share your umbrella with comrades? Is there a lecture attached to the umbrella? If it doesn’t rain, will you still hold the umbrella?
Let’s say Mamdani turns out to be a real piece of shit. Is this the outcome that you wanted? Did you prepare for that outcome? What are you doing to change future outcomes?
What if Mamdani isn’t awful but only accomplishes 1 of this promises? Maybe he makes the buses free. What are you doing to change future outcomes?
If you predict that a train wreck is going to happen and then a train wreck happens. It doesn’t really matter if you were right because the bad thing happened still. Did you want a train wreck to happen? The point is to stop a train wreck rather than to just predict the train wreck.
The point of understanding the world is to change the future, not just to predict the future. If you predict the future and it is not the outcome that benefits your materially reality, then you accomplished nothing.
If you predicted the trainwreck would happen (with an explanation of why it would, and examples of past trainwrecks) and people disagreed, then it happened, those same people might do well to pay attention next time you predict a train wreck.
This is a forum. We are commenting on current events.
I’m saying that you being correct doesn’t matter if you don’t change future outcomes. When you predict the second train wreck, will you have created a mechanism to stop it or are you going to write the draft for another “I told you so”? Are you going to form the “stopping train wrecks” coalition or do you expect other people in the scenario to form it spontaneously? If you are saying that you have to do more than just being right, then you are agreeing with what I wrote in my previous comments.
Going onto a web forum and saying “I told you so” is not a mechanism of changing future outcomes. It is only a mechanism for collecting upbears.
Yes, this is a forum where people discuss things and argue about things. The purpose of predicting things and then later reminding people that you did so would be to convince them your analysis has merit and they should look into it. This is not a revolutionary organization that is able to create “a mechanism to stop it”. I’m not sure why you’re telling people that being right online won’t change the world, they know that. Being right online might change the minds of people who read your posts.
I agree with you that “I told you so” alone probably isn’t productive for discussion. But “as I said before, because of XYZ, ABC” absolutely is.
@dead@hexbear.net the person you’ve replied to has left 27 comments on this post alone. Either they get a dopamine boost from the engagement they receive or they’re a troll.
Yes, I enjoy interacting with people on this website. Otherwise I probably wouldn’t be doing it.
I think you just enjoy the dopamine boost from getting “upbears”, it’s okay to be wrong sometimes.
A suggestion I would make is you would fair better if you put more of this energy doing things off the web than pointlessly commenting on a shitpost from a person you call a troll. Says a lot more about your character than it does me.
The first good point you’ve made to me in this thread is that interacting with you is pointless. And you know what, you kind of got me with that one.
I told you seven comments ago to stop commenting. This back and forth is annoying but you always want the last word. Do better