• ghosts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Last year the heated topic at my family showdown was whether people deserve homelessness and poverty and this year it was whether the state should have the right to sterilize people who have lost guardianship of their children due to neglect.

    I tend to stand my ground until they lose interest in debate and I fucking know they will never change their minds on any of it - but it does become a topic that comes up later on as some form of, “Oh, that’s a touchy topic we don’t talk about that in front of [me]”

    Damn right you don’t, lmao, this is my domain. While you were passively and uncritically absorbing fascist culture, I studied the blade (systemic critiques of capitalism and their solutions)

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      It’s really annoying when they ask your opinion on something, you say something they disagree with, they have nothing to back up their beliefs, yet they just end the conversation and never change their minds. Family asks me how I feel about landlords. I say they’re leeches that contribute nothing and in the future, all tenants and workers should seize the property to live in it directly. “But they provide housing and maintenance!” I explain that the rent is far above the cost of maintenance, and the original price of the housing is irrelevant because the landlord gets to just sell the house eventually to recoup that investment. So they just end the conversation there (no counter argument at all!). No change of mind.

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        My personal favorite “pro-landlord” argument from my family is “but some people want to rent!”. Okay, so have social housing for them that rents at cost?

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        So they just end the conversation there (no counter argument at all!). No change of mind.

        Yeah but, think of how much cognitive dissonance they would feel if they accepted what you said as true. We can’t have that!!!

        It would set a terrible precedent! Because once you label landlords as useless evil leeches, who’s next? CEOs? SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS?!!??

        Next thing you know their whole worldview comes crashing down kitty-cri-screm

      • john_browns_beard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        My SIL has a terrible habit of starting political arguments and then very quickly jumping to “I don’t want to talk about it anymore” the moment it becomes clear that she is in over her head, which is objectively hilarious. Wouldn’t want to accidentally hear something that makes her consider the contradictions in her beliefs.

        She has very little self-control - it’s like a bat signal goes up when she overhears someone talking politics that she disagrees with, she just gets dunked on every single time and still can’t help herself.

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          That’s very funny. I try not to be elitist, but honestly it’s hard not to judge people’s intelligence. It takes a very specific and malicious kind of stupidity to maintain chud beliefs. If you’re dumb and a kind/good person you’ll be a communist no doubt, or actually apolitical. “Why can’t we all just be nice to each other?!” As a genuine question, because it comes so easily and they struggle to imagine how others fail to do it. If you’re dumb and an angry little 12 year old, you’ll be a chud.

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        “But they provide housing and maintenance!”

        Had a landlord not pay his mortgage for a whole year while I was still paying rent. Didn’t find out until cops knocked on my door. I still have the paperwork so I can beat people over the head with it.