In most non-US countries, frying fat is almost always vegan unless it’s butter (but you wouldn’t deep-fry in butter). US fast food deep frying potato fries in beef fat is globally unusual.
And “worried about oils touching” is being deliberately obtuse. We’re not talking about cross-contamination. We’re talking about actual frying in animal fat. That is widely considered not vegetarian and I imagine in most countries where “vegetarian” is a regulated term, you aren’t allowed to call food vegetarian if it was fried in animal fat.
In most non-US countries, frying fat is almost always vegan unless it’s butter (but you wouldn’t deep-fry in butter). US fast food deep frying potato fries in beef fat is globally unusual.
McDonald’s using beef tallow doesn’t matter though because here’s how it works. You fill a commercial deep fryer with like 70Ib of oil. That oil can be vegan, it’s probably canola oil, but guess what? As soon as they fry some chicken nuggets or tenders in there, they’re rendering out a shitload of schmaltz, and that chicken fat is now going to cook and flavor everything.
If you’re fine with that cool but if you’re a vegan who is bothered by that then I’m just trying to inform people that “the vegan option of French fries” still isn’t going to be vegan because unless it’s a fucking vegan restaurant they’re going to be contaminating that oil with animal products.
Yeah what you’re describing is completely different to frying in lard. And I imagine most fast food places have separate fryers for potato fries specifically because people are vegetarian—but in any case, what you’re describing is not what’s being discussed.
Don’t call me obtuse you fucking nerd
Seems like quite the overreaction but ok. Don’t call me a nerd while we’re at it?
You’re acting like you’re the person i initially commented on
I don’t think I am. I’m saying that most vegans/vegetarians consider something being fried in lard vs cross-contamination to be separate categories. That’s not to say that they’re all ok with cross-contamination, but just that many of them treat the two very differently. I don’t think it’s difficult to understand why.
In most non-US countries, frying fat is almost always vegan unless it’s butter (but you wouldn’t deep-fry in butter). US fast food deep frying potato fries in beef fat is globally unusual.
And “worried about oils touching” is being deliberately obtuse. We’re not talking about cross-contamination. We’re talking about actual frying in animal fat. That is widely considered not vegetarian and I imagine in most countries where “vegetarian” is a regulated term, you aren’t allowed to call food vegetarian if it was fried in animal fat.
McDonald’s using beef tallow doesn’t matter though because here’s how it works. You fill a commercial deep fryer with like 70Ib of oil. That oil can be vegan, it’s probably canola oil, but guess what? As soon as they fry some chicken nuggets or tenders in there, they’re rendering out a shitload of schmaltz, and that chicken fat is now going to cook and flavor everything.
If you’re fine with that cool but if you’re a vegan who is bothered by that then I’m just trying to inform people that “the vegan option of French fries” still isn’t going to be vegan because unless it’s a fucking vegan restaurant they’re going to be contaminating that oil with animal products.
Don’t call me obtuse you fucking nerd
Yeah what you’re describing is completely different to frying in lard. And I imagine most fast food places have separate fryers for potato fries specifically because people are vegetarian—but in any case, what you’re describing is not what’s being discussed.
Seems like quite the overreaction but ok. Don’t call me a nerd while we’re at it?
You’re acting like you’re the person i initially commented on
Your imagination is wrong sorry
I don’t think I am. I’m saying that most vegans/vegetarians consider something being fried in lard vs cross-contamination to be separate categories. That’s not to say that they’re all ok with cross-contamination, but just that many of them treat the two very differently. I don’t think it’s difficult to understand why.