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“GrindrUK” “@GrindrUS”
It’s funny that Laurence is about as soft a lad as they come. His entire acting family is so obviously posh and pampered that they all have to play Malfoys, but the rest of them just get on with it instead of coming out with cry-baby shit like this on the regular.
So… we are in bad times… and bad times make hard men… and “we need MEN”… and grindr’s going to make men hard…
Just trying to follow the logic…
IS THAT A RAINBOW IN THEIR PFP? DID GRINDR GO WOKE???
How shocking!
Equal opportunity sodomy imposed.
Did he just call himself soft?
So is Mr Fox admitting to being a soft man for being around to cause these problems?
This is patently inaccurate. If anything, bad times make soft men, in many of us desperate crave someone to protect us, with whom we feel safe to be soft with. And then, of course, soft men makes hard men
Hard men make soft men. Soft men become hard men… What were we talking about?
Ignoring for a moment that apparently women don’t exist in that world, even the premise doesn’t hold: Bad times don’t make hard people, bad times make sick, malnourished, badly educated and/or desperate people, none of which is conductive to making the proposed following of the good times.
If any of that were true, the good times in the so called first world should’ve made their peoples so soft compared to the hard peoples that should’ve been created literally everywhere else that the last 300 years of war or so should’ve ended very differently.
It’s a racist propaganda trope that harkens back to ancient Rome where senators decried the “soft” Roman lifestyle compared to the “hard” germanic tribes and has gathered connotations of blood-and-earth (“Blut und Boden”, no idea how thats translated) and other unsavory shit in the meantime.
I like to call it the “Fremen Mirage” after the awesome blog collection of a historian I very much like: https://acoup.blog/2020/01/17/collections-the-fremen-mirage-part-i-war-at-the-dawn-of-civilization/
Props to grindr for judo-ing this pile of worms to a place the original poster presumably wouldn’t have liked very much
I love that blog. It’s written in such a thorough yet accessible manner that I’ve actually sent that particular post to a friend with whom I was arguing about this with
Reminder that Laurence Fox is a classist, racist, Covid-denying, bigoted, moron that even the majority of the British right wing ignore as too far gone.
Is there an echo in here??
Unfortunately the saying refers to soft men like Trump et. al., not femboys.
God I wish we had a femboy president and cabinet… I’m not even attracted to them. I just know they’d be infinitely better than the fucking fascist cheeto et. al…
no its about femboys. read history
can confirm I lived in the Roman empire 👍
You’d be surprised by the amount of nazi femboys there are…
Eh… I’m aware how insufferably ‘bottom’ many of them are. To want to be a nazi whilst being a type of person they would likely dislike is … pretty strong bottom energy.
This is still not the criteria to decide who decides…
… Nor correct reasoning. Femboys can be fascist too. These are not mutually exclusive sets. So no, you are in error asserting you know they’d be better, if you’re saying they’d not be fascist. Power corrupts, and corrupted feboys may be a devil we don’t know. I’d rather not have a devil making machine. No matter which flavour of devils. I do not want a devil making machine. Putting women in power, did not mend it. Putting “black faces in high places”, did not mend it. But putting femboys in the power structure shaped for fascism, is going to mend it? May be yet missing the lesson to learn here. ~ Sorry Martin Luther King. I’m tryin.
I’m absolutely positive there are fewer femboy fascists than Republican fascists.
My comment is not about the most ideal government, nor about power structures, but a direct comparison of two specific things.
fewer
So your “know” is just a gamble.
A gamble with better odds than the 100% chance we currently have… How fucking dense can you be?
It shouldn’t be fucking difficult to understand that a gamble is better than a guarantee.
Your aggressive ad-hominem, and moved goal posts, is uncompelling. Sorry I’ve failed to help elucidate the epistemics here for you, past your apparent identity attachment with this that’s causing such a social-dominance limbic-reaction occluding critical thinking, but given that reaction, I’m losing confidence in my abilities to cut through the emotion to get this correspondence back to the simple logic, and shan’t even try. Hoping you find the way to feel better.
Those two aren’t men, they’re an enby and a trans woman.
Yet they still make me hard. Curious
Well that means you’re bi
everybody’s bi.
I’ve heard this random theory that everyone is naturally pansexual (or asexual of course, though this not specified in the original theory (the original theory was a short Discord message, I’m expanding on it massively)), and that attraction only to particular sexes/genders/presentations etc. is a social construct, and that preference for particular traits or presentations is what being “straight” or “gay” or “bi” or “pan” acually is. I think this is reasonable and likely be true, but of course it could also not be.
The “but reproduction instinct” counterpoint doesn’t actually hold up against actual nature. There are many instances of same sex attraction in animals. I wonder, are the animals “gay” (same sex attraction only), are they “bi” (attraction to males and attraction to females), or are they “pan” (attraction does not take sex into account or has some but little regard for it). Probably some of each, I wonder what the proportions are. Telling between bi and pan may be difficult in this case.
This definitely needs research.
https://www.worldwildlife.org/resources/explainers/are-there-queer-animals/ https://www.discoverwildlife.com/animal-facts/can-animals-be-gay
Growing up on a farm, I for sure saw a lot of eunuch on eunuch action. Circumstance, survival (including psychological), physiology & biology (especially hormones (like if gonads have been removed)), opportunity, and more, all play into sexual expression.
It certainly helps put aside cultural indoctrinations to reductive certain absolutes, growing up seeing that.
Which in turn helps avert getting tied up in neurotic knots about it all.
So I continue to fall back on “everybody’s bi”, rather than pondering about straight or gay, seeing the apparent of either just as temporal-circumstantial leanings within “everybody’s bi”. … I could probably expand that asserted hypothesis as “everybody’s pan”, but I’m not sure how helpful or harmful that could be. Found peace enough in “everybody’s bi” for myself.
t’aint nothin wrong with it though
good times make hard men. soft men make me hard.
This comment made me a hard man.
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This whole thing never made much sense. It’s just a poorly thought out version of the passage of trauma, one that fails to account for systemization of classism, bigotry, and the like. If this were the case, things should swing wildly every 40 years, but that hasn’t been my observation.
No, it makes perfect sense if you treat it like the metaphorical expression it is and not a literal description of reality…
Or are you the kind of person to think, “measure twice, cut once” literally means you need to measure things twice and not that it’s about being careful?
Nah, metaphors can be wrong. Even things that “feel true” can be wrong.
It’s not wrong when viewed as a metaphor.
Entire generations aren’t comprised of weak or strong men. It’s fucking stupid to think it means the world works in predictable cycles.
What it actually means is, don’t put weak men in charge.
How is this a metaphor for “don’t put weak men in charge”??
Because they create bad times? How is this a fucking difficult concept?
I’d give it respect as a saying if it hadn’t been adopted by republicans as a means of putting down society at large. The Apple doesn’t fall across the bridge when it gets to it.
Also, I do measure twice. But I also cut three times because I’m terrible with electric saws and I need the practice.
That’s stupid. Republicans will miscontrue and torture any expression if it lets them shit on others.
Just look at “right to work”, or all the BS they’ve spouted against universal healthcare since long before Trump et. al…
If you let lying cheating monsters define everything, OFC most of it isn’t going to be true.
You’re welcome to fight the treadmill of American language and associations to attempt to reclaim a saying that I personally view as limiting. Sounds like a huge undertaking, but it seems like it really matters to you. I’m rooting for you.
I’ll never cede ymca as a straight song, but a poorly thought out saying, I can’t care.
Then keep allowing shitty people to ruin things like you seem to want to do. It’s the American way, after all.
