• axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Chomsky paling around with any billionaire on a private jet should immediately put his leftist credentials in question

    But also Epstein is the billionaire he chose to hang out with

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        I’m not gonna stand by everything the guy ever said. But he is 97 years old for lord’s sake. chomsky-yes-honey He was born just a decade after the fall of Tsarist Russia.

        Nobody stays the same over 100 years. Chomsky’s been getting noticeably more inconsistent in his actions and statements since like… the year 2000, which is when basically all these criticisms are from.

        I’m not saying ‘ignore all old people’, but I am saying people change enormously over half a century and we shouldn’t judge them as if they are exactly the same person they were. To start picking apart the consistency of the ramblings or actions of a ninety-seven year old as if he’s still an on-the-ball scholar just feels a bit unnecessary.

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            Howso? A lot of his work and speeches pre-turning 70 seem to focus on how the US (and the west more generally) has no justification for any of its wars and criticising its other forms of imperialism.

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              A lot of Chomsky’s interviews or the ones I’ve seen deal with how freedom of speech is above everything, how violently opposing war is irresponsible, how the best way is to talk it out and put the responsible ghouls in charge.

              He demeans the violent demonstration against the invasion of Vietnam.

              It’s the same with reformists that try to redirect the anger and indignation into impotent ballots

              He can proclaim be against war but if he bashes those who oppose it through any kind of disruption, I will still call him someone that perpetuates the empire

              Edit: it’s early in the morning and I’m rambling so I’ll probably elaborate latter during the day

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                EDIT: Not actually interested in defending him on re-think. My whole point is just that he’s scatterbrained and not the same thought figure he was.

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        Cambodian genocide denial and Khmer Rouge apologia was also very bad, but unfortunately a lot of big leftist figures at the time engaged in it. It was one of those events where a lot of respected left wing figures got it extremely wrong in real time.

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          This is the consequence of putting political alignments in a one dimensional chart, Malcolm x, Robert Williams, Assata Shakur, John Brown, Platner, Chomsky, AOC, all of them are leftists

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            I mean more “far left” people like Samir Amin also engaged in Khmer Rouge apologia. It was a pretty big failure by a lot of communists. There are still Maoists to this day that do this.

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              Leftism is such a purposely nebulous term, as long as you have one slightly decent take you are a leftist, if you think that a broken arm shouldn’t force you to declare bankruptcy then you are a leftist even if you are pro invasion, same with pro LGBT right but you are a mouth foaming racist, see Bernie Sanders

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      Plot twist: Epstein was working for the Anarchists. He was a class traitor that was blackmailing billionaires and funding global leftism this whole time.

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    I tried to email him saying to burn in hell revisionist child fucker, but his inbox is full and it got bounced back lmao

    Seems like I woke up too late in the day to make it into the ‘die fucker’ chomsky line