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    I just checked the page and it’s just a German Thunderbird community. Downloads just redirect to the official Thunderbird. Unfortunate that it’s higher in the results but not malicious

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      23 hours ago

      My ex once almost payed for downloading Firefox because she used the ad link instead of the top result. Good thing she asked me instead.

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      something something

      { pkgs, … }:

      { whatever.i want these installed = [ pkgs.thunderbird ]; }

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          i wouldn’t know correct nixos syntax or for that matter idiomatic usage when multiple paths are available if they kicked me in the balls

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            Nah, both ways are fine. The first one just installs the package, the second one enables the module, which installs the package + does a bunch of additional setup and gives you super convenient configuration options (like setting up mail accounts declaratively from nix)

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    As usual linux is just better and doesn’t have that problem. Microsoft could just make a simple GUI for winget to benefit the users, but they don’t. They have to make more money so they make it into a garbage store full of shovelware so nobody wants to use it.

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    I remember getting pissed that they (Bing, Google, doesn’t matter) put one “sponsored” link as the first result. It got me a few times before I started double checking URLs. Now the first page of results is practically useless ads not even related to the query most of the time. Fucking infuriating. Even Qwant will put multiple ads in if you search for a thing. I’m not biting the bullet for another subscription just yet, but paid Kagi lookin’ finer by the day.

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      I will never use Kagi because requiring an account makes associating search queries with you trivial, though I don’t doubt it is a useful service.

      Mullvad Leta was nice while it lasted, but an easy replacement is DuckDuckGo HTML. As the name suggests, it doesn’t require JS, reducing the attack surface and routes of browser fingerprinting. I do acknowledge that the search results suck about as much as Google, so I need to be creative with search queries.

      A better option is a self hosted meta search engine like SearXNG or 4get. I get that the branding of 4get is off-putting, but it doesn’t require JS for frontend and is much simpler/leaner/reliable than SearXNG. Self hosted search engines are also only useful (imho) if used by a large group (as a public instance) to blend in, or behind a VPN that rotates frequently. This is to avoid association to you.

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        The AI stuff is putting me off though. I didn’t see an option to not subscribe to that. Hell, I’d pay the same rate just without the AI parts if I could.

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          I was more annoyed by their base tier having such a low monthly search count. It feels low to purposefully push people to their higher tier.

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            Long term, if you want good privacy respecting services, you will need to pay for them directly. Free anything is not sustainable unless they monetize it by selling your data or serving you advertisements, which will lead to selling your data. If their revenue is dependent on you believing that the service is worth paying for, then they are incentivized to improve their service and maintain your trust. 

            The free tier high enough that you can get an idea of how well it works, but of course you’re not meant to stay on the free tier, it’s a trial.

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              I’m not talking about the free tier, I’m saying 300 searches a month for 5 bucks wasn’t worth it to me. I’m not willing to pay 120 a year for a search engine. One cent a search and they would have my five a month.

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                Oh yeah I didn’t even consider the base tier, I’d blow through the searches inside of a week.

                For my part, it’s just enforcing something I’d do anyway, I’ve got monthly recurring donations of $5-10 for a bunch of open source projects that I find useful, particularly ones by solo devs, so, it’s not much of a stretch for me.

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          I’ve used kagi’s ai stuff like… twice, maybe. They are fully opt-in and unobtrusive. For reference, this is their ai philosophy: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/why-kagi/ai-philosophy.html

          This seems reasonable to me, though perhaps not perfect. If you don’t want your money going towards ai development at all… IDK. I don’t think they train their own models for what it’s worth, so I think you can avoid paying ai companies by simply not using the ai parts of kagi.

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    VLC Media Player got a problem with a bunch of scam domains too, they mimick the original, usually appear in the first slot and outright install malware on your device… sad

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    Read about black hat SEO and spamdexing / link farming. Prepare to be extremely frustrated and exasperated. Even the most benevolent and well-designed search engines struggle against the masses of (now AI-empowered) spammers and scammers out there.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.

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    I remember when there were ads for Firefox at the top of the search results. Many companies I’ve worked at clicked that link instead of the first result and they wound up with a German Firefox (we were in the UK).

    That wasn’t the main issue though. It wasn’t till a lot of time/companies have passed until the latest IT department I worked for flagged that Firefox version as being spyware.