• heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net
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    1 day ago

    First, produce hydrogen with solar and wind, then store and transport it with rail and ships, and then it can be distributed to smaller vehicles. The biggest issue are oil and gas industry and politicians doing anything they can to stop the hydrogen progress.

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      6 hours ago

      In the “smaller vehicles” part, great obstacles need to be overcome.

      I would be content with doing only the parts that are reasonably economical and efficient:

      • produce it, store it as a compressed gas
      • if CO2 is available, convert it to methane (can be liquefied for distribution) or even bigger molecules
      • if there is demand, use it to reduce steel
      • if storage maxed (no CO2, no ore to reduce) burn it back to water in a turbine, selling electrical power when the market needs it

      Economically, this would likely make ends meet - and keep hydrogen away from consumers (consumers are careless and their systems often faulty, while hydrogen is demanding and dangerous).

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      20 hours ago

      Yes, using hydrogen cells as one part of the storage for over production of electricity from renewables would be the way to go, if you go hydrogen.

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      23 hours ago

      Yeah. Adoption means nothing as one is making hydrogen with the mindset they make petroleum based fuel.
      Production needs to come before adoption. And by that, I mean, the end goal production process.
      Any adoption before that is just wasting more energy.


      But that’s the same for batteries, from what I see.