All of that is true, especially for white middle-class Americans. But, and I think this is what the previous poster is getting at, he further you get from the imperial core the greater the chance of an alternate experience.
What the previous poster was getting at is that they are an annoying person who takes jokes literally to give themselves the opportunity to feel morally superior to people. I’m sure the meme creator would agree that apartheid, slavery, and outlawing same-sex marriage would be bad.
If you’re not a white middle-class American and have had a much tougher experience over this time period and say that was largely down to the parasitic hubris of many white middle-class Americans. Then you might be entitled to a much dimmer view at an attempt at brevity that ignores your viscerally darker cultural history.
The way that most propaganda works is by repeating it’s message whenever/whereever it can and silencing alternative messages. At a certain stage the message is self sustaining (becomes cultural) and the duped populace will police it themselves.
Yes the meme is a wry look at a truism that will resonate with plenty of us on here, and that is fine. But it is also OK for other people to stand up and give their cultural perspective. Otherwise it just comes off as you’re just replicating that toxic behaviour of policing your cultural propaganda.
No, I think the premise of the joke is bad. Its this “Things used to be better” attitude which is completely wrong. It’s guided by weird nostalgia and old movies, that show idealized rich white people.
This is the whole basis MAGA runs on. A bunch of misinformation based on a few cherry picked stats.
“One salary to support a family of 4” (to keep women in the kitchen) is still possible for well educated upper middle-class people, you just have to do the appropriate cuts to lifestyle.
“One million was actually a lot of money.” Yea, that’s how inflation works. Did you not take economics in highschool and learned why that isn’t a bad thing?
Nope, I was definitely right. You are intentionally interpreting a joke in the most unfavourable way possible to give yourself the opportunity to feel good at someone else’s expense.
Incarceration rates in the US, the only legal slavery in post civil war America, drastically increased in the 80s. Same-sex marriage wasn’t made legal anywhere in the US until the 2000s. I’m not sure which US specific Apartheid system you’re talking about, but it probably didn’t improve with Regan.
Ah, yes. Apartheid and slavery came after Regan and Same-sex marriage in several states came before.
If you’re into intentionally misunderstanding memes, you should give Bluesky a try. You’ll love it there.
In 1980, ‘middle class’ was still defined as one job supporting a family of four, and $1 million was considered a vast fortune.
By 1993, when Bush Sr left office, ‘middle class’ was two incomes to keep a household going, and $1 million was what a rich guy spent on a party.
All of that is true, especially for white middle-class Americans. But, and I think this is what the previous poster is getting at, he further you get from the imperial core the greater the chance of an alternate experience.
What the previous poster was getting at is that they are an annoying person who takes jokes literally to give themselves the opportunity to feel morally superior to people. I’m sure the meme creator would agree that apartheid, slavery, and outlawing same-sex marriage would be bad.
If I am the ‘previous poster’ you are referring to, you are 100% correct.
I feel morally superior to the people who wrecked the middle class and called themselves saviors.
No, not you. MareOfNights.
It’s all good.
But I noticed that if I go to ‘main discussion’ there are only two comments showing. Huh?
That’s a perspective issue though.
If you’re not a white middle-class American and have had a much tougher experience over this time period and say that was largely down to the parasitic hubris of many white middle-class Americans. Then you might be entitled to a much dimmer view at an attempt at brevity that ignores your viscerally darker cultural history.
The way that most propaganda works is by repeating it’s message whenever/whereever it can and silencing alternative messages. At a certain stage the message is self sustaining (becomes cultural) and the duped populace will police it themselves.
Yes the meme is a wry look at a truism that will resonate with plenty of us on here, and that is fine. But it is also OK for other people to stand up and give their cultural perspective. Otherwise it just comes off as you’re just replicating that toxic behaviour of policing your cultural propaganda.
No, I think the premise of the joke is bad. Its this “Things used to be better” attitude which is completely wrong. It’s guided by weird nostalgia and old movies, that show idealized rich white people.
This is the whole basis MAGA runs on. A bunch of misinformation based on a few cherry picked stats.
“One salary to support a family of 4” (to keep women in the kitchen) is still possible for well educated upper middle-class people, you just have to do the appropriate cuts to lifestyle.
“One million was actually a lot of money.” Yea, that’s how inflation works. Did you not take economics in highschool and learned why that isn’t a bad thing?
Nope, I was definitely right. You are intentionally interpreting a joke in the most unfavourable way possible to give yourself the opportunity to feel good at someone else’s expense.
Yeah! And OP didn’t even mention the disappearance of Roanoke or carcinization!
… Those don’t have anything to do with the post either, but I, too, want get in on the bipolar schizophrenic nonsense criticism game.
Incarceration rates in the US, the only legal slavery in post civil war America, drastically increased in the 80s. Same-sex marriage wasn’t made legal anywhere in the US until the 2000s. I’m not sure which US specific Apartheid system you’re talking about, but it probably didn’t improve with Regan.