Mfs literally smashing their face with hammers wtf is this thats-why-im-confused Mfs say they’re using maths thats-why-im-confused Whats this crap being fed to the yute? Sexual market valuation? Wtf are you theJPMorgan and chase of dustiness? thats-why-im-confused

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    I’m usually one to say a degree of this always existed but good lord if there isn’t a concerted effort on this… I mean this bullshit literally stemmed from incel forums. How the fuck is it mainstream? And how much dumber will this timeline get thats-why-im-confused

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      Incel antifeminism was always front and center in the neofascist project, ever since Bannon astroturfed Gamergate. I do not have numbers for the US, but the funds for right wing antifeminist campaigning in the EU alone are roundabout half a billion every year, and it’s coming from everywhere, the big reactionary US think tanks are the main players but there are several scarily efficient European (mostly tradcath) crowdfunding campaigns for anti-abortion / anti-feminism / men’s rights and MGTOW / homophobic and anti-trans organizing like Citizen Go, Opus Dei, Radio Maria or TFP (Tradition, Family, Property, the German branch of a Brazilian org), plus a few Russian billionaires (not as front and center as libs would think, but guys like Konstantin Malofeyev do play a role in this alongside western actors). And this isn’t even counting influencers like Andrew Tate and the other manosphere grifters or the actual grassroots organizing in the incel spaces this started in.

      Fascism has always been about turning men’s sexuality pathologic. The current wave is no exception. They want bitter, resentful, frustrated guys who have no other outlet but violence. It’s their central movement building strategy.

      • Fascism has always been about turning men’s sexuality pathologic.

        There are two books by Klaus Theweleit called Male Fantasies. They explore the psychosexual nature of fascism, and how they conceptualize gender, femininity, and masculinity. I haven’t read them yet because they are just two of about 150 other things I want to read. But if anyone is interested in fascists and their psychology around women and sex, these are probably good.

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      I mean, yeah. It’s always been there a bit, sure, but it felt like culture was making a little bit of progress on that front for a couple of years, but now it feels like the whole culture has gone back to 2010s level of childish cliquery and bullying. Just trying way too hard to be trendy and keep up with the Jones’s. It’s kind of sad and hyperconsumerist.

      There’s a weird undercurrent of vapidness and meanspiritedness I haven’t felt since the 2015 chud pepe days.

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        Hell it seems even worse on that front. A lot of social media is just 4ch@n lite now. I mean before it was always shit but now its completely braindead. Every convo just turns into a struggle session. How the fuck is that even possible? i-cant who the hell has time for this?

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          The internet was ruined for good by everything being consolidated into a handful of social media oligarchies full of fascists, both the users and the people in charge. Plus there are so many bots now, even many human users just use LLMs to write their posts, and the posts written by humans just become training material for more LLM slop ouroboros

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          You know, it’s kind of funny. I want to think there’s a huge potential for a large mass movement of non-fascist folks to tell these fascists online to fuck off regularly.

          …Unfortunately for us, they’re too busy at work or paying bills or millions of other bigger problems to do this digital canvassing. For fascists, this really is it.