If it’s a company laptop with a company policy chances are saying no to policy is saying no to that job. While seasoned employees can do that, new employees are SOL
This is blatantly false. There are plenty of jobs out there who will hire you and not do something shitty like installing boss-ware on a computer.
If you allow or enable these employers to get away with it; you’re part of the problem. 99.5% of jobs do not require boss-ware to get done properly; and if your immediate bosses or supervisors had no problems with you before…consider it a large red flag. If you’re joining a company and they mention this; consider it a large red flag.
It’s also about covering your own arse. If you have any work documents/emails/etc on a personal device, it might get taken as evidence if the company is sued. It’s not just WFH, don’t do anything work-related on a personal device.
why? all my work is done in a browser in a (Chrome) work profile except for Slack. Is there really any chance they can see what I’m doing I’m Firefox outside of work hours? Wouldn’t that open them up to massive lawsuits?
Say no to installing closed source software and say no to installing spyware. Simple as that.
If it’s a company laptop with a company policy chances are saying no to policy is saying no to that job. While seasoned employees can do that, new employees are SOL
This is blatantly false. There are plenty of jobs out there who will hire you and not do something shitty like installing boss-ware on a computer.
If you allow or enable these employers to get away with it; you’re part of the problem. 99.5% of jobs do not require boss-ware to get done properly; and if your immediate bosses or supervisors had no problems with you before…consider it a large red flag. If you’re joining a company and they mention this; consider it a large red flag.
Nothing is false about what they said.
If you get hired to a job, the company provides a machine, you don’t get to pick what happens on it.
If you don’t like it get a new job.
Indeed many (most) remote jobs don’t have this stuff
How does this have any effect on work provided laptops? No job I’ve ever had gave me full control of the software installed in my laptop.
I was coming from a mindset you were using your own laptop or buying your own laptop.
Most companies will not require you to purchase your own work computer. I would consider that a huge red flag.
It’s also about covering your own arse. If you have any work documents/emails/etc on a personal device, it might get taken as evidence if the company is sued. It’s not just WFH, don’t do anything work-related on a personal device.
https://www.logikcull.com/blog/when-can-you-obtain-discovery-into-employees-personal-devices
This is why I am making sure if I ever end up in a job that requires me to use one that I will 100% be providing my own.
Don’t use your personal laptop for work. Don’t use your work laptop for personal stuff.
why? all my work is done in a browser in a (Chrome) work profile except for Slack. Is there really any chance they can see what I’m doing I’m Firefox outside of work hours? Wouldn’t that open them up to massive lawsuits?