I really do not understand his infatuation with Greenland.
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  • BanMeFromPosting [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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    The US has rights to minerals and whatnot, but the pesky local governments keep putting up roadblocks to extraction and development. The US wants total control.

    Is that something you know and has articles on, or is that what you’re vibing? Because Greenland putting up any issues with US industrial efforts is news to me.

    The US does not control the shipping near Greenland. China and Russia are actively pursuing shipping through the arctic with icebreakers. The US wants to put a stop to that or at least control it and extract fees for the usage.

    I don’t really think the US would be any more succesful in doing that if Greenland was a US territory though. Greenland is part of the kingdom of Denmark, which is a NATO member. Greenland already has US military bases. Whatever legal mumbo jumbo one would want to do to extract fees for shipping lanes through the arctic, are already available. Russia especially, what with passing through Øresund.
    That’s the thing that’s baffling to me. There doesn’t seem to be any practical reason for this whole ordeal.

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      The military argument is complete horseshit. The yanks already have unhindered military access to Greenland. In recent years they have themselves decided to scale down their military presence there to a couple of hundred people at the Thule Airbase. If they wanted to put stuff on Greenland for spying on Russia or early warning systems, the Greenlandic and Danish governments would roll up the red carpet for them.

      Regarding minerals, Greenland has comprehensive environmental protections in place to protect the vulnerable Arctic enrichment. Big polluting rare earth refining facilities would not be possible under the current rules. An American invasion could put an unelected occupation government in place that would remove these protections and allow American capital to destroy Greenland for profit.

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        Regarding minerals, Greenland has comprehensive environmental protections in place to protect the vulnerable Arctic enrichment. Big polluting rare earth refining facilities would not be possible under the current rules.

        The mining operation in Kuannersuit got interrupted over envinronmetal outrage spearheaded by IA in part because of the radioactivity, but the existing government was all for it. That’s why Siumut ended up owned in 2021.

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      The US has rights to minerals and whatnot, but the pesky local governments keep putting up roadblocks to extraction and development. The US wants total control.
      

      Is that something you know and has articles on, or is that what you’re vibing? Because Greenland putting up any issues with US industrial efforts is news to me.

      Yes, there was a specific case of Greenland passing a law banning the exploration and extraction of Uranium, but Uranium is often found in and around sites of rare earth metals. There’s no reason to believe other mining wouldn’t face the same obstacles as the opposition was in regards to environmental preservation concerns.

      https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/dispatches/greenlands-critical-minerals-require-patient-statecraft/

      https://www.americanbar.org/groups/environment_energy_resources/resources/natural-resources-environment/2026-winter/testing-greenlands-legal-autonomy-regulate-minerals/

      https://www.csis.org/analysis/greenland-rare-earths-and-arctic-security

      As for the security concerns there’s plenty of wishy washy shit from Trump on it, but that is the subtext I get from the constant barrage of "oh god China and Russia are all over the waters near Greenland. The boost of troops and the NATO members stating they’re ready to step up security seem to imply there could be at least a little bit of legitimate concern there.

      But it could just be Trump on a colonization run after whetting his appetite with Venezuela.

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        There’s no reason to believe other mining wouldn’t face the same obstacles as the opposition was in regards to environmental preservation concerns.

        No, there is not. There is absolutely no reason to suspect that Greenland would oppose mineral extraction of other resources that aren’t nuclear. There is a recent history of both Greenland attempting to partner with anyone who wants to to develop their mining sector (Including the US) to achieve economic independence from Denmark and the US/Denmark covering up Greenlandic citizens getting cancer from US nuclear material. Greenland both have an inflamed relation with nuclear material and a strong desire for an expanded mining sector. They are absolutely open to negotiations with regards to the environment (As indeed they did with the cryolite and the lead/zink mines)