• Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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      Is this really the comment you want to be making at a time like this? ICE has, on camera, in the streets, executed two people. They’ve kidnapped at least two elementary school children, that we know of, and probably many more. They’ve killed several people in custody, but since there aren’t multiple video angles of those deaths, those deaths aren’t getting the same play on the internet.

      And this is the context in which you want to blame ICE’s victim for getting shot? Really? What’s wrong with you?

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        Is this really the comment you want to be making at a time like this?

        I see no reason to suspend the logic I would use in any other context.

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      If they pull a gun off of you and you continue to be non-compliant it is not unreasonable for them to assume you could have another weapon

      Why is that not unreasonable? I mean, by that logic why bother with step one? Why not just assume anyone who is resisting has a weapon and murder them?

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        Officers always assume that a suspect could be carrying a deadly weapon especially if they are non-compliant. This is why concealed carry classes focus on that interaction with such detail. As a carrier of a concealed weapon you have to use judgment first of all to avoid conflict and subsequently to reassure the officer that you are not a threat. This is how you facilitate a peaceful disarming and ensure you are not killed.

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        I disagree with how everything is being handled. Regardless putting yourself within arms length of an antagonized, politicized and armed law enforcement agency with a concealed firearm is stupid. It just is. Nothing changes this calculus.

        “Licking Jackboot”

        I’m not part of the Lemmy hivemind. Dismiss logic with whatever slogan you feel like using. You haven’t refuted anything.

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      And what will you do when ICE are patrolling the polling stations to stop “illegals” from voting? Better not argue with them for your right to vote, that’s how you end up in a body bag.

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      If a rabid pit bull was out in the streets attacking the elderly and children, ripping their faces off, you’d be telling everyone to just stay back and make soothing sounds, or offer it a treat, rather than trying to stop it before it does more damage. Self-reflect a little bit and do better next time.

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      These guys always bring out the possibility of another weapon like it justifies cowardice. Deal with what is there’s not what might be there.

      It’s like dealing with children you lack so much awareness

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          I’m not American but I’ve held the view for several years now that the democrats and republicans need to be permanently removed from power. The two big parties must be banned. We may have different reasons for it but what matters is that the political system doesn’t do any good.