• theolodis@feddit.org
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      7 hours ago

      So there are no straight transpersons?

      I think we should probably be something like

      Only one of {homo; hetero; pan; cop} and one of {cis; trans; nonbinary; cop}

      But we can make it simpler by restricting it to {decent human being; cop}

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      16 hours ago

      Fuck. Something just clicked in my head. So it seems to be that many homophobes are closeted homosexual, denying it to themselves or whatever.

      In their mind, is being gay a choice because they themselves have chosen to repress it, to pretend to be straight? Sometimes for years, decades, or their entire lives! Therefore, by that logic, that’s why they don’t seem to understand when called out for making shitty choices, because “the gays” have also made shitty choices (in their view).

      Does that make sense or am I speaking bollocks?

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        16 hours ago

        Now that it clicked, you’ll notice it in a LOT of statements made by homophobes.

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        16 hours ago

        No that’s exactly how it works, how most outspoken homophobes are closeted. They see gay sex as giving in to the sinful urge everyone totally has.

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        16 hours ago

        I would even go so far as to say that quite a lot of them are bi, and when they notice that they are indeed attracted to their own gender, they can truthfully say to themselves “see? I can actually chose to be attracted to the other gender!”

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        Nope, I’ve pretty much heard it verbatim from some church colleagues (I don’t go any more). I love asking, “well did you choose to be straight?”, because the ones who stammer and sputter and shoot back a, “did you?!”. The looks on their face when I say, “Nope! I wish I was, because I have so many gay friends I wouldn’t be wanting for options!” or similar, priceless.

        Even the few who get pissed off never have a good retort to that. It’s like watching an old computer struggle to stay responsive. It’s either straight to ad hominems and name calling pretty much ignoring the whole conversation happened like the entire “Question the Gays” app crashed, or they struggle to reconcile their shitty world views for damn minutes on end.