Can you enlighten us as to how China is authoritarian in a way that Europe isn’t? Because as far as I can tell, even if literally every single thing China is accused of by anyone is true, this is what their major crimes amount to:
Killing 10,000 protesters in Tiananmen Square
Imprisoning 1M Uighurs in Xinjiang
Sterilizing, abusing, and killing some number of Uighurs in Xinjiang, I’ve never seen numbers accompanying this claim
Suppressing Tibetan religious identity
Lack of queer rights
Not respecting Taiwan’s sovereignty
Suppressing political speech that goes against the government
General religious persecution of several religious minorities other than those mentioned above; Falun Gong, Christians, other Muslims, etc
Aggression toward their neighbors like India and the Philippines
Support of Russia during their invasion of Ukraine
Support of Myanmar during the Rohingya genocide
Let me know if I missed any.
Meanwhile, (mainly Western) Europe definitely has done the following in the past 50 years:
Funded and supported Israel’s genocide in Gaza, killing anywhere from 50,000 people per the Health Ministry to 500,000 per Donald Trump
Mostly refused to recognize a Palestinian state until quite recently
Exploited peripheral European states economically
Continued to hold assets belonging to former colonies in the Global South
Collaborated with the US to destroy the USSR and strip it for parts, causing one of the largest peace-time drop in life expectancy in history, and unleashing rampant economic and sexual exploitation
Allow thousands of immigrants to die in the Mediterranean to prevent them from reaching the continent.
Joined the US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan
Joined NATO actions to destroy the Libyan government, leaving the country in a state of utter chaos and making it one of the only places on earth with open air slave markets
NATO actions against Yugoslavia and Serbia (granted, to intervene in a genocide, but in a way that was not done to intervene in the Rwandan genocide; this suggests the intervention was primarily motivated by an extractive, imperialist interest)
Islamophobia; Hijab bans, rampant hate speech, racially stratified economies.
Backsliding queer rights in some countries, total lack in others.
I think there’s probably more I could go into, but I think that’s at least enough to make my case. If you want to believe China is authoritarian because you believe every point in the upper half is true, then I won’t stop you. But you’re on some craaaazy wypipo logic if you think the points in the bottom don’t mean that the same label ought to be applied to Europe.
Okay, I spent like 10 minutes searching my mind trying to fully understand where you’re coming from and meeting you halfway by listing things I don’t even believe to be true about China. If you can’t engage with people who disagree with you under those circumstances, then what level of engagement did you expect?
How is it fair to anyone reading your comments that you spend 20 seconds writing them (evidently that means you didn’t read my response)? How’s that fair to me? That’s really disrespectful.
Can you enlighten us as to how China is authoritarian in a way that Europe isn’t? Because as far as I can tell, even if literally every single thing China is accused of by anyone is true, this is what their major crimes amount to:
Let me know if I missed any.
Meanwhile, (mainly Western) Europe definitely has done the following in the past 50 years:
I think there’s probably more I could go into, but I think that’s at least enough to make my case. If you want to believe China is authoritarian because you believe every point in the upper half is true, then I won’t stop you. But you’re on some craaaazy wypipo logic if you think the points in the bottom don’t mean that the same label ought to be applied to Europe.
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In other words, you’ve got no argument, but you’re too stubborn to admit it.
Okay, I spent like 10 minutes searching my mind trying to fully understand where you’re coming from and meeting you halfway by listing things I don’t even believe to be true about China. If you can’t engage with people who disagree with you under those circumstances, then what level of engagement did you expect?
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How is it fair to anyone reading your comments that you spend 20 seconds writing them (evidently that means you didn’t read my response)? How’s that fair to me? That’s really disrespectful.
Yup.
Ignorance and lies do not inspire respect my good sir.
Le good sir
You didn’t read my comment.
Why would I call lies something I did not read? That would seem dangerous.
Okay, so you read my comment. Presumably that means you think I lied somewhere in that comment. What did I say that was incorrect?
But you are the ignorant one? You don’t understand China at all.
And you have something stuck in your teeth. It is unsightly.
Funny how you say replying to people is just robbing your time and then keep replying for dozens more comments
Oh please, don’t rob yourself of your time, you’re not adding value to the conversation anyway