• TerminalEncounter [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    1 day ago

    I love the fertility rate collapse story because liberals and capitalists cant solve it and seem unable to see that people arent having children because of capitalism, especially this later stage one. The more right wing among em always insist its pure culture and we just gotta get a different culture - so their hail mary (as stated in the article) is stuff like a national holiday to “celebrate families” and wouldnt you know it, people will be forced to work it regardless lol. Or if they’re really using their noodles they’ll be like “ah but Taylor Swift having a kid and other celebrities will make people ignore their material conditions and have kids.” The really dark ones are when they suggest banning birth control (rates collapsed before birth control and they were higher even when birth control was around for 30 to 40 years before collapsing later), or just straight up forced birth- this is the Musk post unstated suggestion of “we might have to take rights away from women” kind of thing, think Gilead but worse.

    Also, the idea of taxing childless people is bad on its face. Like regardless, some people are just infertile through no fault of their own. Tax em for a health condition, sure whatever 🙄 Secondly, we really want parents who only had kids for the tax benefits and not cause they love their kids?? They really can’t square the circle while keeping capitalism, and they have to keep capitalism so I guess its just intractable then

    • Commiechameleon [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      I’m still expected to leave my personal life out of work when my work is inside of my personal life. No kids yet, but if ever they’re going to impact my work because they need this thing called attention gasp. Goddamn tax write offs ruining my career… Common capitalism L

    • Dirt_Possum [she/her, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      They really can’t square the circle while keeping capitalism, and they have to keep capitalism so I guess its just intractable then

      Always with those pesky goddamn internal contradictions!

  • sewer_rat_420 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    22 hours ago

    Don’t we already do (or used to do) something similar in America through child tax credits? I think you might get the cash upfront but it is still effectively a discount on your taxes.

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      They give people with kids child benefits, yeah, but that’s not really how taxes work when you have a fiat currency. Taxes are meant to take money out of circulation, they aren’t what finances government expenditure.

      Edit: they did also raise the child benefit recently, but that’s not really a useful relief for people with kids, because everything else is inflating while wages stagnate, so a fixed pittance thrown their way isn’t an effective way to subsidize families.