Thought this might spur some decent discussion. Lots of libs in the comments but a few good points made.

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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      23 days ago

      Nah, I’m cogent enough to recognize there are real solutions to problems

      There’s no united left media ecosystem that can provide a counternarrative to the dual threats of covid denialism and liberal post-pandemic assurances, orgs serious about combating these scourges should be collating long covid data and testimony and sensationalizing it at arenas of media virality like town halls and school board meetings, a mirror strategy to the right’s anti-woke crusades at local level during the Biden years…that’s just the start

      Meanwhile, someone screaming about how they can’t take leftists seriously because they don’t mask is the definition of inaction inertia

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        23 days ago

        I have no clue what you’re quoting from but okay, I can get on board.

        But again you can’t take any criticism and characterize it as “delusional wokescolds” or hysterical screaming. What most of us have dealt with are self-described leftists and leftist orgs having a pretty good position on Covid and Covid precautions through 2020 and then deciding to take up the cdc line that Covid is over and masks are unnecessary sometime after vaccinations become widespread. This situation has only become worse. Are we not allowed to vent on a Reddit post? Are we not allowed to criticize those who at one time stood with us but showed themselves to be unreliable once things became difficult?

        • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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          23 days ago

          I was quoting myself in response to your claim I was advocating inaction

          Are we not allowed to vent on a Reddit post?

          I’ve masked for almost six years straight and have caught covid four times, if you want to vent go ahead, but I’m done with useless reddit threads, I refuse to be demoralized by bullshit like that, there are solutions to these problems and at this late date I care only about results and wins

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            23 days ago

            yeah so I don’t really understand your position. You say you don’t advocate inaction yet above you say the left can’t organize around health-friendly lines? Which to me implies inaction on the Covid issue - why I accused you of advocating inaction.

            But in any case I think that’s a bad attitude towards criticism. Venting is not in opposition to action, nor is feeling demoralized. If you’re sick of it that’s one thing, but people just trying to commiserate about a bad situation should be supported if anything, not torn down and accused of being delusional and useless

            • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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              23 days ago

              You say you don’t advocate inaction yet above you say the left can’t organize around health-friendly lines?

              Of course you don’t understand my position, you completely misread my point

              The left is not in any position to organize society along health-friendly lines

              I said the left does not have the power to organize SOCIETY along health-friendly lines, are socialists in charge of the CDC?

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                23 days ago

                Who the hell is arguing the left’s failure has been not reorganizing society? Granted I hardly went through the full thread, but nearly all the comments I read were broadly in line with complaints I hear and make among the left that still masks - that many leftists and left wing orgs have essentially abandoned the Covid issue. Even the initial comment you quoted and criticized makes this criticism - the failure of left wing leaders is not their failure to reorganize society but their failure to hold to what should be left wing principles, instead following the cdc into Covid denialism