I dont have any thoughts on how to overcome it, but I think part of the difficulty of convincing people of either is that if they accept you’re right, then they have to accept that theyve (and their friends, family, etc) been not just wrong, but actively participating in doing harm.for the last however many years.
I do have one tiny speck of hope of union between labour and animal liberation: from what my comrades in the farmers union have said, most of the workers in slaughterhouses hate their jobs and have nightmares, ptsd, etc from it. If workers controlled their workplaces and directed society, i think we’d see a vast reduction in animal murder just because of this harm it does to them, even setting aside all the moral, ecological and theoretical arguments.
Or in other words, imo the industrial murder of animals is against the interests of the individual agricultural workers involved; and the production of meat for human consumption is against the interests of society as a whole (if only because of the resources involved).
Personally, I am…not hopeful for people overcoming ableism on the whole. There is nothing in my nearly two decades of activism that tells me they will, and I don’t expect this to improve in my lifetime. I would be blown away. Everywhere in the world stigmatizes disability, despite it being one of the only things guaranteed to come to everyone as they age, along with death. It is a fact of life no matter how healthy one is while they live. There is still a very unhealthy relationship with death in many places in the world, especially in western culture, and so it is with disability. Regardless I feel like I have no choice but to keep trying to move the needle.
I have similar thoughts wrt disability
I dont have any thoughts on how to overcome it, but I think part of the difficulty of convincing people of either is that if they accept you’re right, then they have to accept that theyve (and their friends, family, etc) been not just wrong, but actively participating in doing harm.for the last however many years.
I do have one tiny speck of hope of union between labour and animal liberation: from what my comrades in the farmers union have said, most of the workers in slaughterhouses hate their jobs and have nightmares, ptsd, etc from it. If workers controlled their workplaces and directed society, i think we’d see a vast reduction in animal murder just because of this harm it does to them, even setting aside all the moral, ecological and theoretical arguments.
Or in other words, imo the industrial murder of animals is against the interests of the individual agricultural workers involved; and the production of meat for human consumption is against the interests of society as a whole (if only because of the resources involved).
Personally, I am…not hopeful for people overcoming ableism on the whole. There is nothing in my nearly two decades of activism that tells me they will, and I don’t expect this to improve in my lifetime. I would be blown away. Everywhere in the world stigmatizes disability, despite it being one of the only things guaranteed to come to everyone as they age, along with death. It is a fact of life no matter how healthy one is while they live. There is still a very unhealthy relationship with death in many places in the world, especially in western culture, and so it is with disability. Regardless I feel like I have no choice but to keep trying to move the needle.