cybersecurity people are bootlickers
>start cyber security job
>am 27, BSc, MSc, 4 years of xp
>entire team is over 50 with one youngling at 45
>none of them have any formal IT qualifications whatsoever
>boss does not know how to read
>clearly just reads the first few words of a sentence and guesses the rest
>only writes in 3-4 word sentences without punctuation and capitalization
>only time anyone writes any detailed amount of text is obviously with copilot
>they refuse to use Jira because it’s “too complicated” even though we all have licenses to it and there’s a security project already set up
>have me log ticket statuses in a spreadsheet instead
>but only for 2 weeks, after no one checks it
>all communication is 3-4 sentence emails in threads with 20+ people 100+ emails each going back years
>boss proceeds to talk in a 1-2-1 about how he feels for the fact women don’t get to speak while not letting me utter a single word in said meeting
>almost every time I try to add to a conversation in a group meeting it’s taken as an attack
>team’s main project is to put the password manager behind the same password manager
>half of them are constantly having very basic computer problems
>boss opens group convo on teams only to complain there’s “too many messages” and that he can’t keep up
>I provide summaries in a few short paragraphs but he doesn’t read them
>Boss says he doesn’t have access to a system but he’s really just unable or unwilling to locate the sign in button
>I complete tasks, but they’re never checked on by anyone or followed up by anyone
>sometimes I’m expected to elaborate in detail immediately on random things from 3-4 months ago
>at annual review receive complaints that I’m not doing enough but no specifics
>how positively I’m perceived on a given day seems to not correlate with any work done
>seems to mostly depend on how I look in meetings
>try to make small talk
>most don’t seem to understand the concept
>one proceeds to show me his entire house, room by room
>it’s completely empty and unfurnished
>wut.jpg
>ask them if they like to do self-hosting or play ctfs or hackthebox
>no one has any idea what any of what I said is
>ask one if he’s seen movie_name
>Very awkward pause
>barks: “No”
>Drops off meeting because he had a windows update
>He uses a Mac
>One talks about crypto
>Huge crypto guy
>I somewhat jokingly ask him if he’s got a stash of XMR
>he doesn’t know what that is
Honestly bros I don’t wanna be fired because job searching is hell but there’s a part of me that will breathe a sigh of relief when I eventually am. Quirky star wars shit here I come.
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Honestly bros I don’t wanna be fired because job searching is hell but there’s a part of me that will breathe a sigh of relief when I eventually am.
I’d start looking now so you can leave on your own terms. Job hunting might suck while you have one, but it sucks a lot worse when you don’t.
>Drops off meeting because he had a windows update
>He uses a MacNow that’s the real hackerman
Big brain excuses to ditch meetings
Seriously, that sounds like a person who perfected the skill of avoiding work. Something you’d laugh at as too ridiculous in a BOFH story. One should be honored to see such a master of his craft. I wish I had the poker face to pull stuff like that off.
That sounds depressing. I get most people are in tech just for the money, and I completely understand why.
But it still sucks to have nobody around share “cybersecurity hobbies” with you while working in cybersecurity.
Hopefuly there will be a bunch of open jobs when LLM chatbots die away so you can find a better workplace or start freelancing.
Please ping me if you have any job openings. This sounds like paradise.
How so?
how positively I’m perceived on a given day seems to not correlate with any work done
seems to mostly depend on how I look in meetings
I have discovered that being liked is more important than doing anything. This appears to be a near universal reality, and applies to work, relationships, family, religion, politics, home renovation, economics, finance - you name it. Always be nice to your colleagues. Smile a lot. Be interested in their hobbies. Say yes to social time. This is how you get promoted. If you want to make it to the C suite, you need to put in a little effort. Not too much though. You don’t want to become too important in your role to promote.
My cousin is an extremely smart and well educated woman. She tried for 6 years everything in her power to get promoted. Worked her fucking ass off.
When she gave up, started dressing like a slut and hitting on her boss she started getting a pay bump every quarterly review and inside a year basically made more progress in her career then the previous six.
That went in for a few years till she started rounding over 30 and her ability to look like a slutty high schooler basically fell off.
Her career at that company has been dead ended since. She bitches about it frequently. And complains the fact she was “too proud to show some cleavage” when she was younger prevented her from making more money.
It’s fucking stupid, awful and really fucking frustrating. I looked up to her when I was young. So to see her basically break under the sexism of society is God damn awful.
I’m not sure which “pill” I’m about to take but I really think what you describe is less “sexism” and more “human nature.” I’ve seen attractive men and women get promoted on the basis of their attractiveness and sex appeal. It is especially prevalent in customer-facing roles. For some reason, people buy more from attractive people. They trust them more. They’re less likely to cancel contracts. They complain less. They agree more. Everyone just seems happier and more content. A slew of psychologists have a lot to say about this phenomenon so I don’t need to rehash it.
I think sexual appeal is inextricably linked to being liked, for good and bad. Some people are born on third base. Some people need to work much harder to be funny and charming.
It’s because when you’re talking to a hot person your brain pumps out more happy juice.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
In this case, the game consists of players who choose to play it this way, without any repercussions for not playing it.
In short, “be a member of the team” and a likable enough person to get along with at work.
The recurring themes in this message suggest that’s going to be challenging.
I’ve found myself in a similar, although, waaay less bad situation. Imho there are basically three ways:
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Embrace the stupidity, do the bare minimum to stay employed, try to game the reviews, find meaning in your private life, side projects and hobbies
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Enjoy that you get paid for drinking coffee while it lasts, and spend the time you have writing applications and acquiring stuff that looks good on a CV
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Quit, whether on your own or by literally doing jack shit, accept the unemployment and/or worse job you might have to take. May or may not be an option, depending on the situation.
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Wow that hurt to read. Thanks for sharing!
> goes into field filled with nerds
> shocked that field filled with nerds is filled with nerds
> shockedpikachu.jpeg
Names are arbitrary anyway.
I see the point of something like
euw-69-r47s11-vm420, but a memorisable name is more useful if you are small/specialised enough that you need to remember which box does what.Also, let people have some fun, the world is bleak enough.
Is it rfc1178 that says not to use names that look like serial numbers because they’re not mentally distinct enough?
I think the point of this post is how they are all doing stereotypically nerdy things, and then they are into Twitter
>field stereotypically composed of argumentative assholes
>members congregate amongst argumentative assholesThis is as surprising as finding my old human sexuality professor on tumblr. I mean, I haven’t, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
Another unfortunate fact is that there are a lot of right wing people in IT. That’s something I’ve learned in national conferences. I always hang out in places like this so I had no idea how bad it was, but at least 50% of the people I’ve met at IT conferences were right leaning. There’s only 1 on my team. 2 if you count the libertarian.
That’s one of the things I enjoy about working in the video games industry instead of a normal software place, everybody seems much more progressive than the average for my country. Maybe it just comes with being underpaid and working on creative stuff.
As is the rest of society. There’s nothing about IT that would make it more likely to attract left wing folks. There is that for FOSS specifically, but a huge part of the IT sector only consumes FOSS products without ever giving back.
FOSS also attracts right wing libertarians
True, but by its nature of sharing more left wingers than other fields of IT
When I first started I used to work at an absolute dumpster fire of a place, and even that only had one right wing guy and he was a conspiracy theorist who thought that the COVID vaccine contained nanobots. The guy who is supposedly an IT professional thinks we have nanobots.
He didn’t last very long. Not because he was a conspiracy theorist, although for my part I would have been perfectly fine if that had been the reason, but because he was actually kind of useless at his job. It turns out that if you think we have a microscopic robotic technology then you’re probably not as well versed in the industry as you are pretending to be.
Yes we are nerds but we must have decorum.
Plus if you’re managing any real infra at all you’ll run out of names if you’re using Star Wars, even the extended canon.
Really: They’re cute until you’re on a screenshare with an angry customer and you’re trying to restore the
wookiedatabase to theewokdatabase. Then it’s way less cute.Every character on screen has a name in Star Wars. For example: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Davin_Felth
oh my god glub shitto is so sexy
excuse me but that is their sexy twin clone glup shitto
I always confuse the two, sorry.
God I love that fandom. Or, used to anyways.
I wouldn’t use cute names anyway because I’d forget what they actually were. It’s way better to use descriptive names so that you actually look like you know what you’re talking about. Generally speaking you don’t see cute names as much as you just see bad names.
In the past I’ve read code that says things like
prefDoUserAccountProccessing_b(e)only to find out that it’s some old bit of code that isn’t used anymore because it’s for an old legacy SAP system. That’s apparently what the_bindicated, because obviously.Well now we know how Palpatine came back.
I know this story is fake because it shows someone actually getting a job in cybersecurity these days
Is that not a thing anymore?
Jobs? Nope we don’t do this anymore
We just tell ChatGPT to check our networked containers now.
I’m on Twitter because a long time ago it was a good place to get contacts and industry updates. The only reason I’m still on Twitter is because I haven’t used it in about 6 years have forgotten the password and can’t log in to delete the account.
But anyway being in cybersecurity isn’t about being invisible, if you were invisible you wouldn’t be in the industry, you’d just be a hermit living in the woods. It’s about being aware of security threats and taking precautive action for yourself and your employer. Me posting videos of my rat completing puzzles, doesn’t compromise either of these requirements.
Meh, I like cute names like the next nerd, but I’ve never seen any in practice. It’s all TV model number like codes.
The most annoying usage I’ve seen was a smaller company that used stars wars names for email distribution lists.
“Why did you forward this networking ticket to Chewbacca group? It’s supposed to go to BobaFett.”
Gee, I dunno, maybe because you use cutesy, non-descriptive names for email groups instead of just networkingsupport@company.com.
I’ve seen cute names at a couple of smaller companies
Yeah, if we had a small start-up sized network, for sure. But as soon as you go into dozens of servers it becomes unmanageable :/ I need to know at a glance what the function of a given server is, my colleagues in sysadmin need to know what rack, what layer in our archi, what os, is it prod, etc. Hence TV model style names. Don’t roll off the back of the tongue, but at least we all know what we’re dealing with without knowing an encyclopedia knowledge of anime / star wars / etc trivia.
I compensate by making fun (for me) jpeg to ASCII welcome messages when I connect to remote servers :P
quietly disconnects from fileshare named Deathstar
😐
Remember Hitachi Deskstars?
They were IBM Deathstars before they sold it off to Hitachi, who eventually sold out to WD.
Bit before my time in computer-work, sadly. Might’ve seen one or two floating around an IT department junk pile? An old department head had a bit of a hoarding problem
connects to death star 2
leaves a backdoor open
I put fun little Easter eggs like that in my logging and some debugging but I can admit it’s cringe. If I had someone speak to me like that I wouldn’t hate it but I’d question their earnestness.
oh, I won’t offend them never (let my sexy gf photos private and secure)
