The plans - which are subject to a 12-week public consultation - seek to prevent smoking, vaping and the use of heated tobacco in these settings across England.

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    no, I think you misunderstand your source.

    it says that the chemicals are not yet (in 2015) known to cause any harm. the big thing with vaping chemicals (as pointed out in my sources) is that you heat it up a lot and inhale it.

    therefore the way these chemicals are used in vaping is very different than in food, and present different risks. so the research into vaping is it’s own risk.

    If you really think your source is “quality over quantity” then please do read it again, and look at the dates of the studies ❤️

    one of mine is a so-called cumulativte study that looks over a lot of studies to find broad trends, and that one points out that it is for certain dangerous.

    back in the day tobacco companies said that smoking cigarettes was not harmful. they even funded research into saying that. I’d be sceptical of companies and the narrative that they profit from.

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      Those food flavourings have been cooked in ovens, which are significantly hotter than vapes, in both commercial and home use for decades. The ones that caused problems got removed. They are safe to inhale, even in commercial high use areas. This is not some new area of science.

      We’ve also been pumping disco ‘smoke’ into rooms with people in for decades, any risks would have been identified. It is safe, unless you vape a stupid amount. It’s like 95x safer, but if you then vape 95x more than you smoke, then Darwinism is fine.

      Inhaling smoke is a far higher cancer risk.

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          6 hours ago

          I only vape cannabis. I used vapes to quit smoking. I mixed my own juice and tapered off the nicotine until I found inhaling custard flavoured disco smoke unappealing.

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            from the source I sendt up there

            “In particular, an outbreak of E-Cigarette and Vaping-Associated Lung Illness (EVALI) brought the short-term respiratory consequences of vaping into question, especially if cannabis or THC-containing products are used[4]”

            https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa1916433 - this is the source they point to (i.e. [4])

            I enjoy lotsa unhealthy foods and stuff myself, but on my path to quitting nicotine I did vape - and quit it due to concerning research. carcinogens as in cigarettes (and weed) is well understood. Vaping is not.

            anyways! I’ll finish responding now 😅 so enjoy your stuff! just be careful spreading misleading numbers like that 95%, it’s blatantaly false.

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              4 hours ago

              Yes, from the ingredients they put in there. You don’t put oil in your lungs. Again, not new science.

              That’s not cigarette replacement which is where the 95% reduction in harm comes from.