Lol you’re changing the topic because you know he’s right. If someone else cooks my meal for me, regardless of price, that’s a luxury. If it costs $1 or $100, the act of another person preparing and cooking my food instead of having to do it myself is something I would consider a luxury. If it was free I would still consider the act of another person cooking my food for me a luxury. Its not about price or how much the ingredients cost separately.
Because if you don’t consider having someone else make your food a luxury, what is it? Normal? Expected? Do you not cook your own food? It’s wild you just call “troll” cuz he has a different opinion than you. If anything you and the people shadow boxing his comments are the trolls.
Lol you’re changing the topic because you know he’s right.
They’ve been changing the topic to try and shoehorn their own elitist opinion into something else. The entire topic is about cost. Not luxuries or people serving others. It’s about money and how much things cost. The reason @TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world is being downvoted to hell and back is because they’re missing the point from the beginning. If money is tight, why should people be forced to buy uncooked food and ingredients to make food at home, spend more money to do it, just to make some uptight person on Lemmy feel better about themselves?
If the already cooked chicken is cheaper, and money is tight for things like bills and electricity, buy the fucking cooked chicken. The only person who brought “luxury” into this was that idiot who completely missed the entire point of the conversation and the entire point of the post and had to stick his elitest fucking nose into everything.
Yes, I do cook my own food. I make dinner at home all the time. My partner cooks as well. Because we can afford dropping $20 on a club pack of pork chops, wrap a bunch in our vac sealer, and stick them in the freezer for future use. We have the means in order to store ingredients and have two freezers in our farm house and own a 14 acre property.
But we’re the exception, not the rule in today’s day and age. And guess what? I’ll still order pizza and come home with that. Or get a rotisserie chicken because work sucked and I don’t feel like cooking. And the fact that people like you and Tittyfrog genuinely care so fucking much about how other people spend their money and what they eat is remarkably pathetic.
And because I know they’re going to read this comment too, to quote something they said…
The existence of $6 ready to eat roasters is seem some inherently good and worthy thing… but it isn’t when you start to ask why they cost so little.
When you are struggling to literally feel yourself, your kids, pay rent, fill your gas tank, and make ends meet paycheque to paycheque, you don’t have the time or the energy to give a shit where the supply chain comes from. Some people are literally just trying to survive, and you talking down to people like that make you a fucking asshole.
Thanks for not really addressing anything I said and just jumping right back into your own stuff. That was cool. It let me know you didn’t really read what I said, think about it, and formulate a response. Great stuff. Oh and you should scroll back up to the first comment in this chain and see that the original poster called it a luxury first, so I guess you didn’t read that either. TittyFrog hasn’t been the one calling people idiot, or pathetic, or asshole, YOU have been.
Maybe take a step back and read what I’m trying to say. We are talking about the idea of if hot and ready to eat food is a luxury item. Not food in general or how much it costs (which you keep bringing up when I’m telling you it’s not about the cost). I don’t really care how you spend your money lol, I wish my tax dollars could go towards providing food, water, and shelter to everyone instead of the military industrial complex and corporations. Most people are just trying to survive, you and me both and everyone else in this chain I’m sure.
Thanks. Yeah that’s part of the point I’m trying to make.
But people don’t see the world that way… they see premade food as some sort of normal thing. And ironically all the nutrionists and public health people straight up tell us that premade stuff is unhealthy and problematic in both terms of nutrition and cost. Cheap food is always full of additives and shitty stuff. Natural foods are not, but they cost more. Better food production practices and regulations, cost more, etc.
But people just want see the sticker price in front of their face and ignore all the things that go into that price and don’t want to talk about them because acknowledging how the supply system works is ‘trolling’ because it makes them uncomfortable. The existence of $6 ready to eat roasters is seem some inherently good and worthy thing… but it isn’t when you start to ask why they cost so little.
We increasingly live in this weird world were the notion of cooking your own healthy food is some form of class oppression and privileged or something. When what it does is give you way more control over what goes into your body and typically you eat less.
I guess that means I am not allowed to buy groceries or something? Or care and have any interest in how the food supply works? Who is going to stop me from reading books and articles about nutrition and economics and farm policy?
Most people buying pre cooked chickens aren’t doing so because it’s their only option. They are doing so because it’s convenient and they are hood winked by the loss leader pricing into paying more for less.
If loss leader pricing didn’t work companies wouldn’t do it.
How is that relevant? The article doesn’t say “Gen Z and millennials are getting lured in by pre-cooked chickens and then duped into buying other stuff they don’t need”.
Lol you’re changing the topic because you know he’s right. If someone else cooks my meal for me, regardless of price, that’s a luxury. If it costs $1 or $100, the act of another person preparing and cooking my food instead of having to do it myself is something I would consider a luxury. If it was free I would still consider the act of another person cooking my food for me a luxury. Its not about price or how much the ingredients cost separately.
Because if you don’t consider having someone else make your food a luxury, what is it? Normal? Expected? Do you not cook your own food? It’s wild you just call “troll” cuz he has a different opinion than you. If anything you and the people shadow boxing his comments are the trolls.
They’ve been changing the topic to try and shoehorn their own elitist opinion into something else. The entire topic is about cost. Not luxuries or people serving others. It’s about money and how much things cost. The reason @TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world is being downvoted to hell and back is because they’re missing the point from the beginning. If money is tight, why should people be forced to buy uncooked food and ingredients to make food at home, spend more money to do it, just to make some uptight person on Lemmy feel better about themselves?
If the already cooked chicken is cheaper, and money is tight for things like bills and electricity, buy the fucking cooked chicken. The only person who brought “luxury” into this was that idiot who completely missed the entire point of the conversation and the entire point of the post and had to stick his elitest fucking nose into everything.
Yes, I do cook my own food. I make dinner at home all the time. My partner cooks as well. Because we can afford dropping $20 on a club pack of pork chops, wrap a bunch in our vac sealer, and stick them in the freezer for future use. We have the means in order to store ingredients and have two freezers in our farm house and own a 14 acre property.
But we’re the exception, not the rule in today’s day and age. And guess what? I’ll still order pizza and come home with that. Or get a rotisserie chicken because work sucked and I don’t feel like cooking. And the fact that people like you and Tittyfrog genuinely care so fucking much about how other people spend their money and what they eat is remarkably pathetic.
And because I know they’re going to read this comment too, to quote something they said…
When you are struggling to literally feel yourself, your kids, pay rent, fill your gas tank, and make ends meet paycheque to paycheque, you don’t have the time or the energy to give a shit where the supply chain comes from. Some people are literally just trying to survive, and you talking down to people like that make you a fucking asshole.
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Thanks for not really addressing anything I said and just jumping right back into your own stuff. That was cool. It let me know you didn’t really read what I said, think about it, and formulate a response. Great stuff. Oh and you should scroll back up to the first comment in this chain and see that the original poster called it a luxury first, so I guess you didn’t read that either. TittyFrog hasn’t been the one calling people idiot, or pathetic, or asshole, YOU have been.
Maybe take a step back and read what I’m trying to say. We are talking about the idea of if hot and ready to eat food is a luxury item. Not food in general or how much it costs (which you keep bringing up when I’m telling you it’s not about the cost). I don’t really care how you spend your money lol, I wish my tax dollars could go towards providing food, water, and shelter to everyone instead of the military industrial complex and corporations. Most people are just trying to survive, you and me both and everyone else in this chain I’m sure.
Thanks. Yeah that’s part of the point I’m trying to make.
But people don’t see the world that way… they see premade food as some sort of normal thing. And ironically all the nutrionists and public health people straight up tell us that premade stuff is unhealthy and problematic in both terms of nutrition and cost. Cheap food is always full of additives and shitty stuff. Natural foods are not, but they cost more. Better food production practices and regulations, cost more, etc.
But people just want see the sticker price in front of their face and ignore all the things that go into that price and don’t want to talk about them because acknowledging how the supply system works is ‘trolling’ because it makes them uncomfortable. The existence of $6 ready to eat roasters is seem some inherently good and worthy thing… but it isn’t when you start to ask why they cost so little.
We increasingly live in this weird world were the notion of cooking your own healthy food is some form of class oppression and privileged or something. When what it does is give you way more control over what goes into your body and typically you eat less.
Because that’s not what the conversation is about, and you know it.
If all you can afford for dinner is a supermarket roast chicken, you’re not in a position to give a single iota of a fuck about why it’s so cheap.
I can afford Michelin star roasted chickens.
I guess that means I am not allowed to buy groceries or something? Or care and have any interest in how the food supply works? Who is going to stop me from reading books and articles about nutrition and economics and farm policy?
…what? That’s literally the opposite of my point.
You’re in the position where you can be intentional with your food choices. Good for you.
People buying pre-cooked chickens because that’s all they can afford aren’t.
Most people buying pre cooked chickens aren’t doing so because it’s their only option. They are doing so because it’s convenient and they are hood winked by the loss leader pricing into paying more for less.
If loss leader pricing didn’t work companies wouldn’t do it.
How is that relevant? The article doesn’t say “Gen Z and millennials are getting lured in by pre-cooked chickens and then duped into buying other stuff they don’t need”.