Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
Then they will have to travel the other way, which doesn’t have the risk of being detained illegally by ICE.
Or meet up in Canada, if they live close to Canada.
I have a brother (and his group of friends) who decided to go, and they are full into their sunken cost fallacy at the moment. It would be very tough to reason them out.
I also tried to explain them that if it is a matter of money spent and unrefundable cancellations, I can compensate their costs. No amount of lost money ever can justify the risk they are exposing themselves into.
Refuse it.
At a very minimum there should be a huge risk compensation for traveling for work to USA right now.
6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it.
6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it.
They did state that one person had an expired visa in the article. Absolutely not defending anything ICE did to the traveling couple, but it was not just being randomly picked up and carried away like headline and summary suggests.
She absolutely had a VALID Visa, and the headline is correct. Just because her husband’s Visa had expired , doesn’t justify locking them both up for 6 weeks.
She was locked up with a valid Visa.
Also the story about the Koreans that were arrested, when they were there preparing workers to work on a factory Hyundai was making, creating thousands of jobs, show that you are in no way safe as a foreigner coming to work in USA. You are actually more vulnerable, as they may disregard that foreigners working there are actually there legally.
She did but her husband did not. Detaining her for traveling with him is nuts. Detaining him for that is also nuts but another story. The point being: there were “irregularities” involved. I am not saying it’s not insane but also not completely random.
Just dont. This is that ‘probable cause’ bullshit all over again. It’s like saying, “well, he did have a habit of looking out of windows. Maybe he was just standing there and lost his balance.” I think we’ve seen enough to not believe a single thing that comes out of that failed nation.
Why would anyone in the tight state of mind travel to that shit hole?
A lot of people have relatives who live there.
That doesn’t mean they must go there. Better use the money for the ticket to get your relatives out before it’s too late.
“Here, come live with me in my tiny flat. I can sleep in the bathtub.”
Lol
A bathtub might very well be better than whatever Trump’s goons are setting up in all those warehouses they are currently renting all over the US…
And their assets? And their work visa? Language? Cultural differences?
There is hardly any money for common people to take off work to protest let alone to move countries.
Just look where the journey leads
Soon nobody will be safe from being abducted into some warehouse concentration camp for arbitrary reasons.
Then they will have to travel the other way, which doesn’t have the risk of being detained illegally by ICE.
Or meet up in Canada, if they live close to Canada.
It doesn’t? I think it does have that risk.
Like that British woman who got murdered by her father in Texas?
There has latelly been a lot of news of this one british lady who visited her father in Texas.
I have a brother (and his group of friends) who decided to go, and they are full into their sunken cost fallacy at the moment. It would be very tough to reason them out.
Congratulations, they are massive idiots. It’s not like this wasn’t forecast for at least two years now.
I also tried to explain them that if it is a matter of money spent and unrefundable cancellations, I can compensate their costs. No amount of lost money ever can justify the risk they are exposing themselves into.
I will need to travel there for work next month 🥲
Refuse it.
At a very minimum there should be a huge risk compensation for traveling for work to USA right now.
6 weeks detained by ICE is no holiday, the conditions are horrible, and you will more likely than not be denied medical service if you need it.
Exactly. Imagine if a job forced people to travel to Russia for “work”.
Honestly, i don’t know if wouldn’t feel less worried about going to russia lol. Might be news bias but still.
They did state that one person had an expired visa in the article. Absolutely not defending anything ICE did to the traveling couple, but it was not just being randomly picked up and carried away like headline and summary suggests.
I am strongly considering that anyway…
She absolutely had a VALID Visa, and the headline is correct. Just because her husband’s Visa had expired , doesn’t justify locking them both up for 6 weeks.
She was locked up with a valid Visa.
Also the story about the Koreans that were arrested, when they were there preparing workers to work on a factory Hyundai was making, creating thousands of jobs, show that you are in no way safe as a foreigner coming to work in USA. You are actually more vulnerable, as they may disregard that foreigners working there are actually there legally.
She did but her husband did not. Detaining her for traveling with him is nuts. Detaining him for that is also nuts but another story. The point being: there were “irregularities” involved. I am not saying it’s not insane but also not completely random.
Just dont. This is that ‘probable cause’ bullshit all over again. It’s like saying, “well, he did have a habit of looking out of windows. Maybe he was just standing there and lost his balance.” I think we’ve seen enough to not believe a single thing that comes out of that failed nation.
I know exactly how stupid that phrase sounds :/
Get out of here with your non-manichean views!
It’s as random as arresting the next in line.
Refuse it. And don’t forget: they will be reading this.
Refuse it, I did… I can attend meetings virtually and will be available via teams, but I am not traveling to the US.
No, you need anorher job next month