I could be Mandela effect-ing but I thought they said at the time it was a car accident so many people dismissed it as sad but not unusual and more details emerged only later when attention died down.
Giuffre died by suicide at her home in Neergabby, Western Australia, on April 25, 2025, at the age of 41. An investigation is ongoing; according to authorities, “early indications” show that “the death is not suspicious”. On May 1, her father rejected the alleged cause of death as suicide, telling Piers Morgan “for them to say that she committed suicide, there’s no way that she did” instead claiming that “somebody got to her”. According to Snopes and The Daily Dot, in 2019, Giuffre posted to Twitter saying that she was “in no way, shape or form” suicidal, stating “if something happens to me”, “do not let [it] go away”. Giuffre’s Australia-based attorney Karrie Louden said she believed that Giuffre’s death was not “suspicious in any way” and added: “The Coroner will determine in due course the cause of death and that will be established based on the evidence.” At the time, the BBC observed that “there is still much that is not known about Ms Giuffre’s last days or her personal circumstances.”
Like we can’t know what happened for sure, she was clearly under an immense amount of stress and pressure, and had been reliving trauma for years. Its conceivable that something happened to her, a switch flipped, and it all became too much. I dont think people can really say theyll never do it, especially under these circumstances.
But her family denies it, and she showed herself to be heroically brave. Is bravery the antidote for suicide? No, I don’t believe so; suicide is not a sign of cowardice. But this whole thing has been about taking the attention off of the victims, questioning their word and experiences, and defining justice in a way that is centered on these powerful men and women rather than the many many victims of this heinous crime. I think there’s still people who are afraid to speak out, some who may have experienced much worse than we even know, women whose testimony would still shock us and implicate more powerful people.
We can’t know, but Virginia asked us to believe her. Either she was made to commit suicide or she was murdered to look like it; in either case the same people and institutions are directly responsible for her death. If she did bring about her own end, the reasons why she did still amount to murder by proxy. So from our perspective she must be believed.
I could be Mandela effect-ing but I thought they said at the time it was a car accident so many people dismissed it as sad but not unusual and more details emerged only later when attention died down.
I’m not sure. The Wikipedia says:
Like we can’t know what happened for sure, she was clearly under an immense amount of stress and pressure, and had been reliving trauma for years. Its conceivable that something happened to her, a switch flipped, and it all became too much. I dont think people can really say theyll never do it, especially under these circumstances.
But her family denies it, and she showed herself to be heroically brave. Is bravery the antidote for suicide? No, I don’t believe so; suicide is not a sign of cowardice. But this whole thing has been about taking the attention off of the victims, questioning their word and experiences, and defining justice in a way that is centered on these powerful men and women rather than the many many victims of this heinous crime. I think there’s still people who are afraid to speak out, some who may have experienced much worse than we even know, women whose testimony would still shock us and implicate more powerful people.
We can’t know, but Virginia asked us to believe her. Either she was made to commit suicide or she was murdered to look like it; in either case the same people and institutions are directly responsible for her death. If she did bring about her own end, the reasons why she did still amount to murder by proxy. So from our perspective she must be believed.
Pretty much this, at a certain point it’s just the difference between murder and social murder, and neither is tolerable.
Cool sn, abolition + grunge nostalgia is very of this moment