Also, besides all that, what’s the point in saying “well, it’s ‘just’ late stage capitalism”? We don’t really have the option of reverting to an earlier stage, do we? If you want capitalism, this is the capitalism you get, so trying to save the sterling reputation of what you imagine older versions to be like when you concede that this is their legacy seems silly.

Obviously this is not what I’d view as the most profound point one could make about the topic, but I think it might be easier for getting someone to think critically about their thought-terminating excuses.