• insurrection@mstdn.social
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    7 days ago

    > you are bad if you don’t vote for the better candidate because it is helping the worse candidate win and implement their bad policies.

    nonvotes don’t help any candidate win. the thing that helps them win is people voting for them. blame the people who are responsible.

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      6 days ago

      This is where simple logic and math collide with some weird emotional notion. Non-votes don’t stop the worse candidate - that helps them win. Sort of like the trolly problem. You are arguing that the act of not pulling the lever vs pulling the lever is relevant. Whether it’s an action or a non-action that implements your decision is irrelevant.

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        6 days ago

        the trolley problem only reveals your own ethics. it doesn’t have a singular answer or lesson. deontologists don’t touch the lever, and they don’t vote for bad candidates, even if their are worse candidates.

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          6 days ago

          Except in this case the trolly will kill a bunch of people if you pull the lever, or if you don’t, it will kill those people plus a whole lot more. The logic of which people are killed is removed and so if you don’t pull the lever you are responsible entirely for the deaths of the extra people.

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            6 days ago

            I’m only responsible for what I do. I didn’t create the situation in which the people were tied to the tracks of the trolley was set in motion. if I pull the lever I will kill people. I will choose not to kill people.

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              6 days ago

              And that stupidity is why America has trump, and lots more people will die in the Middle East. Just because you are too ignorant to understand, doesn’t mean you aren’t responsible for it.

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                6 days ago

                calling me ignorant and stupid doesn’t change the morality of voting for evil people.

                I think a case can be made that the long slope of lesser evilism is what made trump possible.